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Richards, Smith, Lara, Hammond
- Thread starter kyear2
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capt_Luffy
International Debutant
3rd tier. Bradman's is in a tier of himself. Also, they can be the 5th Best only if we restrict the judgement strictly to Test cricket and not all FC games, or else Grace comes into the Top 5 (if not 2)....
kyear2
Cricketer Of The Year
Yes , it's Test cricket
Coronis
Cricketer Of The Year
Seriously @Prince EWS? I thought I’d be the only Hammond vote, probably the most niche option here.
I kind hope some won’t vote for Viv cos they think he’s even higher so he’ll lose the poll
In terms of personal ranking, I’d probably have it Hammond/Smith/Lara (very small gaps) then Richards below them. I do agree though that these three have a small but definite seperation of themselves from the next group (which for me is the other openers and Chappell)
Then Viv is for me in a tier with Kallis/Sanga/Kenny/Ricky. Then I move on into the Headley/Pollock/Border/Waugh tier.
I kind hope some won’t vote for Viv cos they think he’s even higher so he’ll lose the poll
In terms of personal ranking, I’d probably have it Hammond/Smith/Lara (very small gaps) then Richards below them. I do agree though that these three have a small but definite seperation of themselves from the next group (which for me is the other openers and Chappell)
Then Viv is for me in a tier with Kallis/Sanga/Kenny/Ricky. Then I move on into the Headley/Pollock/Border/Waugh tier.
Red_Ink_Squid
Cricketer Of The Year
I'd have Hutton ahead of all of these. But of the options given, Lara. I think.
kyear2
Cricketer Of The Year
He was included literally just for you and @Prince EWSSeriously @Prince EWS? I thought I’d be the only Hammond vote, probably the most niche option here.
I kind hope some won’t vote for Viv cos they think he’s even higher so he’ll lose the poll
In terms of personal ranking, I’d probably have it Hammond/Smith/Lara (very small gaps) then Richards below them. I do agree though that these three have a small but definite seperation of themselves from the next group (which for me is the other openers and Chappell)
Then Viv is for me in a tier with Kallis/Sanga/Kenny/Ricky. Then I move on into the Headley/Pollock/Border/Waugh tier.
The Viv disrespect with you two continues to be real though ....
kyear2
Cricketer Of The Year
I go Viv because of who he did it against, Lara is only slightly behind him from that regard and remains the best batsman I've ever seen. Smith's record is better than the others, but he didn't quite face the level of bowlers. Hammond for me is well behind them all, was suspect vs pace and in the tier below.
Yeah Hutton definitely warrants an option here; probably voting Lara myself though.
Agreed.
Coronis
Cricketer Of The Year
He’s basically the 70’s and 80’s Ponting. Awesome peak but meh outside of it.
kyear2
Cricketer Of The Year
It's also who it was against. Who did Hammond score against? He was suspect and down right uncomfortable vs pace
Slifer
International Captain
Tbf BCL was pretty uncomfortable vs pace as well...but Lara did make runs vs the goat (worst 2nd greatest) pace bowler ie McGrath.
Patience and Accuracy+Gut
State Regular
Medium pace didn’t make Hammond struggle really. McGrath’s speed would definitely not be a problem to Hammond. As far as I know, Hammond did pretty well against Larwood. Though, he did have weaknesses against express pace especially considering top tier batsman.
Patience and Accuracy+Gut
State Regular
Hutton deserving of a mention.
kyear2
Cricketer Of The Year
Too many options makes these things complicated and he would have been coming in at the expense of Hammond.
HouHsiaoHsien
International 12th Man
Richards the best. First tier is only Bradman I presume? Would rank Tendulkar and Hobbs above all of these. And Sobers only below Richards amongst those mentioned.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
I think he's assuming Bradman, Hobbs, Tendulkar and Sobers to be all rated ahead, which is why the poll question mentions number 5.
kyear2
Cricketer Of The Year
Isn't that the consensus?
h_hurricane
International Vice-Captain
Richards is in the 2nd tier after Bradman. So too are Lara and Smith. That makes Hammond the answer to this thread. I am voting here the batsman who I think is the worst of the options.