Richard Hadlee vs Viv Richards

[Johan]

Bradman never had to face O Reilly, Lindwall, Miller, Grimmett and Ironmonger either, we can't penalize players for something beyond their control.

 

[DrWolverine]

Hadlee never had to play Crowe in tests tbf

Crowe is good. But he isn’t that good.
Hadlee bowled to much better batsmen in his career.

 

[Johan]

Unlike Gary Sobers, Viv Richards’ record in NZ can be excused - He played just 3 tests there

4 innings at that.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Bradman never had to face O Reilly, Lindwall, Miller, Grimmett and Ironmonger either, we can't penalize players for something beyond their control.

Tbf Bradman does gets penalized to an extent for never playing any ATGs like Lindwall and O'Reilly.

 

[Johan]

Tbf Bradman does gets penalized to an extent for never playing any ATGs like Lindwall and O'Reilly.

not to a big extent though, plus, Gooch is a **** player according to you and averages 45 against Windies while opening, Viv will be fine.

 

[DrWolverine]

Let’s penalise Bradman by 20 runs in average.

Yeah. He is still the best ever by a significant margin

 

[Johan]

The guys who were the best against West Indies weren't even ATGs, it wasn't THAT tough

 

[DrWolverine]

Not saying Viv would have failed against WI pace quartet.

It would have been interesting to see one of the best players of fast bowling going up against 4 of the best pacers who are different from one another.

 

[Johan]

Probably would be fun

 

[subshakerz]

Hadn't we went over how it's literally the same for Viv??

How?

 

[DrWolverine]

Imagine Holding doing this after getting Viv’s wicket. How would Viv react in the next match? Viv would play aggressively and how would the others respond?

 

[Johan]

Viv would probably smash apart Roberts and Holding, Garner is most interesting.

 

[Coronis]

Viv would probably smash apart Roberts and Holding, Garner is most interesting.

Garner would intimidate Viv with his Big Bird.

 

[DrWolverine]

Most of the successful batsmen against them have a defensive style so seeing the legendary Viv go up against them would be very fun

 

[capt_Luffy]

not to a big extent though, plus, Gooch is a **** player according to you and averages 45 against Windies while opening, Viv will be fine.

I think you are taking it a bit far..... I rate Gooch quite highly, though probs not higher than consensus. Amarnath did even better, much better, in WI. Don't think you will entertain him over Gooch.

 

[DrWolverine]

Garner is arguably the toughest bowler to hit.

Viv is perhaps the most destructive batsman of all time.

 

[capt_Luffy]

How?

Hadlee played 70% in Australia, Eng and home; Viv did 68%

 

[Johan]

Country by Country

Australia — Hadlee
England — Viv
India — idk, @capt_Luffy tell me
Pakistan — Viv
NZ — Hadlee duh
West Indies — Viv duh
.

 

[DrWolverine]

Viv had a special liking for the English bowlers

 

[DrWolverine]

India : I would say Hadlee

India’s batting was better than our shitty bowling back then