Ravindra Jadeja vs Kevin Pietersen

[PlayerComparisons]

This should be closer

 

[BazBall21]

Jadeja will win this. Stokes beat KP and I don't think Stokes would beat Jadeja.

 

[subshakerz]

KP because he has closer to a full career.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Pietersen weak against left arm spin, good match up for Jadeja

 

[BazBall21]

I wish KP played under a more forgiving and flexible regime and environment. Like the current one for instance. Obviously not the most endearing person and didn't help himself at times but England really did make a fine mess of managing him.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

I wish KP played under a more forgiving and flexible regime and environment. Like the current one for instance. Obviously not the most endearing person and didn't help himself at times but England really did make a fine mess of managing him.

Root and KP batting together for a few years would have been fun to watch

 

[subshakerz]

I wish KP played under a more forgiving and flexible regime and environment. Like the current one for instance. Obviously not the most endearing person and didn't help himself at times but England really did make a fine mess of managing him.

He should never have been dropped after that last Ashes. Blunder.

 

[Prince EWS]

He should never have been dropped after that last Ashes. Blunder.

Disagree. You can get away with being a really negative influence on the dressing room if you're making proper runs. Making slightly more runs than the rest of the failing team while feuding with a bunch of teammates is a totally different thing.

But I've hashed this one out enough over the years, lol.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

England did end up winning the 2015 ashes so it doesn’t really matter I guess

 

[subshakerz]

Disagree. You can get away with being a really negative influence on the dressing room if you're making proper runs. Making slightly more runs than the rest of the failing team while feuding with a bunch of teammates is a totally different thing.

But I've hashed this one out enough over the years, lol.

That's up to the management to get him in line. It's their failure if they can't reign him in. Similar with Inzi's failure to get the best out of Shoaib.

 

[CricAddict]

Two of my most favorite players here in this poll. But Jadeja wins this easily.

 

[Prince EWS]

That's up to the management to get him in line. It's their failure if they can't reign him in. Similar with Inzi's failure to get the best out of Shoaib.

Yeah it is. But it is what it is.

 

[honestbharani]

Yeah it is. But it is what it is.

Is it?

 

[BazBall21]

Watched the KP documentary again the other night, England failed him. Mostly because he was born one era too soon. I think the current setup would be far more accepting towards the IPL/T20 comp gigs which is where the fallout and division began.

Furthermore, there would also be a warmer and more consistent stance on his creative aggression; from both the media and coaches etc. I think some traditionalists fail to see their own hypocrisy when they call Pietersen a genius after hitting a good ball for six, only to lambast him when he plays round one instead.

The environment even under Silverwood would have been more flexible and forgiving. The setup and culture for him today though would be literal dreamland by comparison. We've even gone back to flat pitches at home! What could have been....

For sure, he didn't help himself. Textgate is indefensible. He fell out with his first county side etc. He isn't the easiest personality. But the environment today (or even any post-09-13 regime in fact) would have made for a happier KP.

There shouldn't be too much regret as he did still have a great and illustrious career. It just could have been a longer and healthier story. Injuries admittedly didn't help also.

 

[Coronis]

Yeah it is. But it is what it is.

Its a failure from both sides.

 

[Prince EWS]

Is it?

Yeah it is.

 

[sledger]

Putting KP's severe negative influence down to him being poorly managed is just victim blaming.

 

[Molehill]

KP the far superior batsman, Jadeja the far superior bowler. KP has a Test Series win in India to his credit, Jadeja does not have the reverse. KP wins.

 

[BazBall21]

Putting KP's severe negative influence down to him being poorly managed is just victim blaming.

KP was managed poorly, KP did not help himself and was indefensible once or twice, KP would be managed a lot better under any regime that followed.

Those things can be simultaneously true.

 

[sledger]

KP was managed poorly, KP did not help himself and was indefensible once or twice, KP would be managed a lot better under any regime that followed.

Those things can be simultaneously true.

Yeah well, I daresay Harold Shipman could have been managed better as well. C'est la vie.