sayon basak
International Coach
Don't you rate Ashwin ahead?
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Ravichandran Ashwin vs Aubrey Faulkner
- Thread starter MasterBlaster24
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So Faulkner playing in games where spinners in general averaged 23.82 is somehow better?
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
imagine how good of a Batsman he must've been to average 40+ on these minefields.
Based largely on a couple of good years which make up 40% of his career.
DrWolverine
International Captain
Ahead of whom?
DrWolverine
International Captain
Ashwin is not good outside India. This isn’t a Dennis Lillee like situation where he was unproven.
Ashwin played plenty of tests in SENA and he just was not good enough. The only places outside India he did well was WI & SL, two poor teams.
Ashwin played plenty of tests in SENA and he just was not good enough. The only places outside India he did well was WI & SL, two poor teams.
sayon basak
International Coach
Faulkner obviously.
Faulkner played vs 2 teams, averaged 37 in Australia and was below average as a spinner in his games. His batting is boosted by 2 years of averaging 60+ in 10 Tests, and only managed 25 overall.
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
He averaged 73
sayon basak
International Coach
There is no coming back from this. This is like the "randomfan" case where he just used to check his espn bio before posting anything.
You're right, he averaged 50 with the ball. My bad, he's even worse than I thought.
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
No, he averaged 51 with the ball and 73 with the bat, as he focused entirely on batting, do you think we can't just access the stats?
sayon basak
International Coach
Don't try to make up for your ignorance with lies brother.
I think it doesn't matter because it's not a convincing argument for me in favour of Faulkner given the relatively short period of his batting prowess and general underperformance with the ball. That, along with a lack of longevity and experience across a variety of conditions comparable to Ashwin is why I don't rate him over Ashwin.
It wasn't ignorance or deliberate lying. Do you want to behave like an idiot because of this?
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
Cool, I'm still gonna take a guy who shares the distinction of being a top level bowler and top level Batsman from his era at once, something pretty much nobody else except Garfield Sobers for some time in the 1960s share.
sayon basak
International Coach
Aww stop crying. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
You didn't? I was genuinely curious.
That's fair. I'll disagree with it but it's at least worth discussing.
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
Fair enough.
sayon basak
International Coach
Regarding the poll, think Faulkner is clearly the more balanced all rounder, while Ashwin is clearly better on primary. Very close, Faulkner just for me as a cricketer.