Johan
International Coach
at a time?? he's still overrated as hell
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Rank these 5 Test openers in order (Boycott, Greenidge, Hayden, Sehwag, G Smith)
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sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
You must be the new guy.
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
where do you rate him? below Cook?
Johan
International Coach
same level but a little bit higher than Cook and Hayden
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
For me personally, I rate Smith/Greenidge/Hayden/Sehwag at a similar level. All have their positives and negatives, and my ordering of them is far from set. All for sure behind Boycs and all for sure ahead of Cook
Johan
International Coach
Why do you have Sehwag "for sure" over Cook?
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
He still is. But back a year or so, he was legitimately making Top 30s.
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
Now, he is not rated way higher that your or Johan's ratings.
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
I don't have him in Top 50
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
Close.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Here is my order
Greenidge: Overall very dominant in a tough bowling era.
Boycott: Don't like him at all but he did have a good record
Hayden: I have recently moved him ahead in my rankings based on his sheer peer rating consensus as the best opener of the 2000s and so many players talking about his bully effect.
G. Smith: Very close to Hayden but I would argue his only real big advantage over Hayden is England. But it's not enough for me to overcome Hayden's sheer peer consensus.
Sehwag: Too weak in swinging conditions
Not sure I will would place Boycott before or active Hayden. I am tempted to say after Hayden because Boycott having a SR in the 30s is kinda ridiculous. Having said that, Boycott is simply better at surviving the new ball against great attacks.
Greenidge: Overall very dominant in a tough bowling era.
Boycott: Don't like him at all but he did have a good record
Hayden: I have recently moved him ahead in my rankings based on his sheer peer rating consensus as the best opener of the 2000s and so many players talking about his bully effect.
G. Smith: Very close to Hayden but I would argue his only real big advantage over Hayden is England. But it's not enough for me to overcome Hayden's sheer peer consensus.
Sehwag: Too weak in swinging conditions
Not sure I will would place Boycott before or active Hayden. I am tempted to say after Hayden because Boycott having a SR in the 30s is kinda ridiculous. Having said that, Boycott is simply better at surviving the new ball against great attacks.
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Johan
International Coach
in swingy conditions where batting gets easier as match progresses, slower and steadier batting is more productive than attacking. Gordon against extra bounce and reverse is a bigger issue than Geoffrey's batting ideology.
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Cricket Bliss
U19 Vice-Captain
Boycott didn’t have good record?
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
If he did he’d be above Greenidge who clearly has a good record.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Sorry I meant he did. Typo.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Well as opener his job is primarily to survive the new ball so I can't fault him too much for SR even if he is unusually bad.
Cricket Bliss
U19 Vice-Captain
Boycott averages 40 even after attaining the age of 40.
Averages 45+ in all conditions bar New Zealand
good against both pace and spin.
Johan
International Coach
Cricket Bliss
U19 Vice-Captain
He played in an era when the greatest batsman of England were their openers : Boycott, Edrich and Amiss..rest were at best mediocre. So surviving never acts as a limitation.
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Why is that surprising. Him seeing off 10 overs of new ball in swinging conditions can mean the difference between a score of 150 to 300.