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Players who went up or down in your judgement after going through their records

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ma1978

International Debutant
Coronis said:
Yes. Both very serious posts. I am very serious guy. :ph34r:


Really? You rate Compton higher than most? I’m shocked you’ve even heard of a pre-70’s player, let alone rate them.
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I know a lot more about cricketing history than you do buddy. I just draw different and better conclusions
 
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peterhrt

First Class Debutant
Johan said:
Went Up
Ken Barrington (In England)
Went Down
Ken Barrington (outside England)
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Reaction of leading English journalists immediately after Barrington's retirement:

John Woodcock (The Times): He set himself a target and reached it if he could at his own pace, and in his own way. Time and again England had cause to be grateful to him; at other times, he was too introspective.

EW Swanton (Daily Telegraph): It was as a batsman of infinite patience, the quiet tenor of his way marked by occasional flurries of belligerence, that he will always be remembered. In a sense, home watchers and viewers seldom saw the best Barrington, for he thrived on the faster truer pitches abroad. Of his ten hundreds against the major enemies, Australia, West Indies and South Africa, only one was made at home.

John Arlott (The Guardian): It is too easy to describe Ken Barrington as "dour". When Surrey and England find another batsmen as consistent, as determined, and as prolific, they will have done well.

Alan Ross (The Observer): He was a master at farming the bowling, not always in the general interest, and as often as he saved England from ignominy did he clog up the works by a kind of defiant obstinacy little related to the state of the game. This self-centredness was surprising for such a warm and agreeable personality.

Alex Bannister (Daily Mail): He was one of seven who said he did not enjoy his cricket when a poll organised by MCC was sent to all first-class players. The other six were believed to come from Essex as a joke. But cricket was no joke for Barrington as big success and greater responsibilities came his way. He was England's mainstay, obliged to eliminate all strokes that entailed risk.
 
Johan

Johan

International Coach
peterhrt said:
Reaction of leading English journalists immediately after Barrington's retirement:

John Woodcock (The Times): He set himself a target and reached it if he could at his own pace, and in his own way. Time and again England had cause to be grateful to him; at other times, he was too introspective.

EW Swanton (Daily Telegraph): It was as a batsman of infinite patience, the quiet tenor of his way marked by occasional flurries of belligerence, that he will always be remembered. In a sense, home watchers and viewers seldom saw the best Barrington, for he thrived on the faster truer pitches abroad. Of his ten hundreds against the major enemies, Australia, West Indies and South Africa, only one was made at home.

John Arlott (The Guardian): It is too easy to describe Ken Barrington as "dour". When Surrey and England find another batsmen as consistent, as determined, and as prolific, they will have done well.

Alan Ross (The Observer): He was a master at farming the bowling, not always in the general interest, and as often as he saved England from ignominy did he clog up the works by a kind of defiant obstinacy little related to the state of the game. This self-centredness was surprising for such a warm and agreeable personality.

Alex Bannister (Daily Mail): He was one of seven who said he did not enjoy his cricket when a poll organised by MCC was sent to all first-class players. The other six were believed to come from Essex as a joke. But cricket was no joke for Barrington as big success and greater responsibilities came his way. He was England's mainstay, obliged to eliminate all strokes that entailed risk.
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I didn't know South Africa after their batting declined in 1950s was still put as high on enemy list as Australia and The West Indies.
 
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peterhrt

First Class Debutant
Johan said:
I didn't know South Africa after their batting declined in 1950s was still put as high on enemy list as Australia and The West Indies.
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At the time this was being written (1968) South Africa had beaten England 18 times. Six of the wins were since 1950 and they had won the most recent series in England in 1965. The South Africans had also just beaten Australia and would soon do so again. Between them India, Pakistan and New Zealand had only recorded four wins from 89 Tests against England.

South Africa's bowlers remained competitive throughout the 1950s and 1960s. Barrington struggled a bit against them at home, averaging 32 in nine Tests. He averaged only 23 in seven home Tests against West Indies before being dropped. His record against Australia was better but their bowling was weaker than usual during most of the 1960s.
 
Johan

Johan

International Coach
peterhrt said:
South Africa's bowlers remained competitive throughout the 1950s and 1960s. Barrington struggled a bit against them at home, averaging 32 in nine Tests. He averaged only 23 in seven home Tests against West Indies before being dropped. His record against Australia was better but their bowling was weaker than usual during most of the 1960s.
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That Simpson 311 Trent Bridge wicket probably amplified his home Ashes average massively
 
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