Pick the Best All-Rounder Combos

[subshakerz]

by definition, if you play at the same or similar level for longer, you are a more valuable player and have had a better career.

Only if you are too lazy to do deeper analysis and just want to reward the player with 10 more tests to his name.

 

[subshakerz]

Once can make the case Botham is a better batter bit differences between them are marginal at best as reflected in the averages, and the context of how they respectively performed against the Windies and the additional length of Kapil’s career

So averages = absolute quality to you, is it?

Length of Kapil's career is irrelevant as Botham already has a large sample size. In fact, that record chaser Kapil should be docked points for it.

 

[ma1978]

Only if you are too lazy to do deeper analysis and just want to reward the player with 10 more tests to his name.

thats 10 more tests of value the player contributed to their team. This is arithmetic

 

[Coronis]

thats 10 more tests of value the player contributed to their team. This is arithmetic

Kapil 131 tests 5248 runs
Botham 102 tests 5200 runs

Yes those extra 48 runs are of far more value over 29 extra tests. This is arithmetic.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Batting performance in terms of calendar years

50+ avg
Kapil - 2
Botham - 0

45+ avg
Kapil - 2
Botham - 1

40+ avg -
Kapil - 3
Botham - 1

35+ avg
Kapil - 6
Botham - 4

30+ avg
Kapil - 12
Botham - 7

It sure looks comparison between batsmen in different leagues.

 

[subshakerz]

Batting performance in terms of calendar years

50+ avg
Kapil - 2
Botham - 0

45+ avg
Kapil - 2
Botham - 1

40+ avg -
Kapil - 3
Botham - 1

35+ avg
Kapil - 6
Botham - 4

30+ avg
Kapil - 12
Botham - 7

It sure looks comparison between batsmen in different leagues.

Do it for series with a minimum requirement for runs.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Do it for series with a minimum requirement for runs.

You can do it, If you want it that way.

 

[Bolo.]

Batting performance in terms of calendar years

50+ avg
Kapil - 2
Botham - 0

45+ avg
Kapil - 2
Botham - 1

40+ avg -
Kapil - 3
Botham - 1

35+ avg
Kapil - 6
Botham - 4

30+ avg
Kapil - 12
Botham - 7

It sure looks comparison between batsmen in different leagues.

Batting performance in terms of calendar years

75+ avg
Kapil -0
Pollock 1

50+ avg
Kapil - 2
Pollock - 3

45+ avg
Kapil - 2
Pollock - 3

40+ avg -
Kapil - 3
Pollock - 3

35+ avg
Kapil - 6
Pollock - 7

It sure looks comparison between batsmen in different leagues.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Batting performance in terms of calendar years

50+ avg
Kapil - 2
Botham - 0

45+ avg
Kapil - 2
Botham - 1

40+ avg -
Kapil - 3
Botham - 1

35+ avg
Kapil - 6
Botham - 4

30+ avg
Kapil - 12
Botham - 7

It sure looks comparison between batsmen in different leagues.

Batting performance in terms of calendar years

75+ avg
Kapil -0
Pollock 1

50+ avg
Kapil - 2
Pollock - 3

45+ avg
Kapil - 2
Pollock - 3

40+ avg -
Kapil - 3
Pollock - 3

35+ avg
Kapil - 6
Pollock - 7

It sure looks comparison between batsmen in different leagues.

I like both these posts tbh. Impressive statting.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Batting performance in terms of calendar years

75+ avg
Kapil -0
Pollock 1

50+ avg
Kapil - 2
Pollock - 3

45+ avg
Kapil - 2
Pollock - 3

40+ avg -
Kapil - 3
Pollock - 3

35+ avg
Kapil - 6
Pollock - 7

It sure looks comparison between batsmen in different leagues.

It sure looks comparison between batsmen in SAME league, but if you look closer its very evident Pollock's stats boosted by not outs ( Same as Imran ).

 

[Coronis]

It sure looks comparison between batsmen in SAME league, but if you look closer its very evident Pollock's stats boosted by not outs ( Same as Imran ).

Same with Kapil vs Botham

 

[Bolo.]

It sure looks comparison between batsmen in SAME league, but if you look closer its very evident Pollock's stats boosted by not outs ( Same as Imran ).

You may have a point in dismissing the stats I posted. They seem a bit questionable as a means of rating a bat. Not sure what I was thinking, or how I came up with that idea. Apparently they don't mean that much.

 

[ma1978]

Same with Kapil vs Botham

the problem is this is justpoor stats analysis without context. When they were playing no one considered Botham a superior bat to Kapil, in fact the alternative for much of their career. Whether this is in fact true or not, that was certainly the contemporary perspective.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

the problem is this is justpoor stats analysis without context. When they were playing no one considered Botham a superior bat to Kapil, in fact the alternative for much of their career. Whether this is in fact true or not, that was certainly the contemporary perspective.

Kapil Dev was already Ian Botham equivalent in early 80s, and all knows what happened to Botham since then.
Kapil's ultra fast batting was considered a special thing and helped the team many a times especially avoiding follow ons.
Comparing Kapil's batting to Pollock's is like comparing Sachin's ODI batting to Klusner's. Plain numbers without context.