Pick the Best All-Rounder Combos

[subshakerz]

Which combo would you select assuming you have to select a number 6 and a number 8 in your lineup, and the rest of the lineup are all minnow level.

Sobers/Miller or Kallis/Imran

Cairns/Jadeja or Flintoff/Shaqib-ul-Hassan

Hadlee/Kapil or Pollock/Botham

 

[capt_Luffy]

Kallis/Imran as they offer a proper ATG bowler. With other minnow bowlers, I need that extra bit from my frontline one than Miller can offer. Though this was particularly close, as Sobers/Miller are much superior batting side and Sobers can ball the longest spells. I am not really even sure.....

Cairns/Jadeja. Again, very close; but I feel that the batting and bowling is more balanced, with an emphasis on the ball as I would prefer.

Hadlee/Kapil. This one was the relatively easiest. Botham/Pollock is a much more formidable batting unit, but in an ATG bowler in Hadlee and a work horse in Kapil, I prefer them.

 

[subshakerz]

Kallis/Imran as they offer a proper ATG bowler. With other minnow bowlers, I need that extra bit from my frontline one than Miller can offer. Though this was particularly close, as Sobers/Miller are much superior batting side and Sobers can ball the longest spells. I am not really even sure.....

Cairns/Jadeja. Again, very close; but I feel that the batting and bowling is more balanced, with an emphasis on the ball as I would prefer.

Hadlee/Kapil. This one was the relatively easiest. Botham/Pollock is a much more formidable batting unit, but in an ATG bowler in Hadlee and a work horse in Kapil, I prefer them.

Good answers.

 

[howitzer]

Kallis/Imran as they offer a proper ATG bowler. With other minnow bowlers, I need that extra bit from my frontline one than Miller can offer. Though this was particularly close, as Sobers/Miller are much superior batting side and Sobers can ball the longest spells. I am not really even sure.....

Cairns/Jadeja. Again, very close; but I feel that the batting and bowling is more balanced, with an emphasis on the ball as I would prefer.

Hadlee/Kapil. This one was the relatively easiest. Botham/Pollock is a much more formidable batting unit, but in an ATG bowler in Hadlee and a work horse in Kapil, I prefer them.

Yeah can't really dispute any of that.

 

[Victor Ian]

I can, because I am using young Botham and McGrath level Pollock. The batting still wins but now the bowling is two spearheads that wreck everyone.

 

[Coronis]

Which combo would you select assuming you have to select a number 6 and a number 8 in your lineup, and the rest of the lineup are all minnow level.

Sobers/Miller or Kallis/Imran

Cairns/Jadeja or Flintoff/Shaqib-ul-Hassan

Hadlee/Kapil or Pollock/Botham

Reported.

 

[ma1978]

Which Botham - the greatest cricketing peak of all time or the slow, painful decline

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Kallis/Imran as they offer a proper ATG bowler. With other minnow bowlers, I need that extra bit from my frontline one than Miller can offer. Though this was particularly close, as Sobers/Miller are much superior batting side and Sobers can ball the longest spells. I am not really even sure.....

Cairns/Jadeja. Again, very close; but I feel that the batting and bowling is more balanced, with an emphasis on the ball as I would prefer.

Hadlee/Kapil. This one was the relatively easiest. Botham/Pollock is a much more formidable batting unit, but in an ATG bowler in Hadlee and a work horse in Kapil, I prefer them.

Much more formidable batting unit?
Botham slightly better bat than Kapil.
Hadlee slightly better or equal bat to Pollock.

 

[Coronis]

Much more formidable batting unit?
Botham slightly better bat than Kapil.
Hadlee slightly better or equal bat to Pollock.

lol

 

[capt_Luffy]

Much more formidable batting unit?
Botham slightly better bat than Kapil.
Hadlee slightly better or equal bat to Pollock.

Botham is considerably a better batsman than Kapil, and so is Pollock than Hadlee....

 

[Coronis]

Botham is considerably a better batsman than Kapil, and so is Pollock than Hadlee....

lol

 

[ma1978]

Botham is considerably a better batsman than Kapil, and so is Pollock than Hadlee....

again which Botham.

the median Botham is at most marginally better than the median Kapil

the prime Botham is considerably better

the subprime Botham considerably worse

Botham is hard in these things because it really was the tale of two careers.

 

[Coronis]

again which Botham.

the median Botham is at most marginally better than the median Kapil

the prime Botham is considerably better

the subprime Botham considerably worse

Botham is hard in these things because it really was the tale of two careers.

Everyone has peaks and troughs. If you ask me to rate Kohli’s batting do I rate him based on his 20-23 slump? No, I rate him based on his entire career. Botham was definitely a better batsman and a better bowler imo than Kapil.

The only thing Kapil has in his favour is his Windies performances, otherwise Botham has a far better record vs everyone everywhere iirc.

 

[Victor Ian]

Yeah. No one is picking anyone based on their slump. And if you are not considering the slump, then the average is the peak. Botham shits it in even if Pollock is injured

 

[capt_Luffy]

Everyone has peaks and troughs. If you ask me to rate Kohli’s batting do I rate him based on his 20-23 slump? No, I rate him based on his entire career. Botham was definitely a better batsman and a better bowler imo than Kapil.

The only thing Kapil has in his favour is his Windies performances, otherwise Botham has a far better record vs everyone everywhere iirc.

Lol

 

[ma1978]

If he’s the visibly better bowler and bat, why are his numbers pretty much the same

 

[capt_Luffy]

If he’s the visibly better bowler and bat, why are his numbers pretty much the same

The thing is Botham had a much higher celling than Kapil, with both the ball and especially the bat. And while he still is a Top 5 All rounder of all time; his peak was comparable to Imran's. But he fell, hard. And while I do believe Kapil to be the better bowler due to longevity; Botham did delivered more often and more consistently with the bat. Be his ATG 149* in Leeds or that he has 14 centuries to Kapil's 8 in less matches. It's kinda a shame he doesn't average 40+ with the bat. The only thing Kapil has going for is his stupidly high Strike rate; which I don't value that much in Tests.

 

[ankitj]

Where are the polls?

 

[ma1978]

The thing is Botham had a much higher celling than Kapil, with both the ball and especially the bat. And while he still is a Top 5 All rounder of all time; his peak was comparable to Imran's. But he fell, hard. And while I do believe Kapil to be the better bowler due to longevity; Botham did delivered more often and more consistently with the bat. Be his ATG 149* in Leeds or that he has 14 centuries to Kapil's 8 in less matches. It's kinda a shame he doesn't average 40+ with the bat. The only thing Kapil has going for is his stupidly high Strike rate; which I don't value that much in Tests.

I agree. Much higher ceiling (at his ceiling he was the GOAT after Bradman) and a much lower floor. But if people are comparing the medians, they are very similar

 

[Coronis]

The thing is Botham had a much higher celling than Kapil, with both the ball and especially the bat. And while he still is a Top 5 All rounder of all time; his peak was comparable to Imran's. But he fell, hard. And while I do believe Kapil to be the better bowler due to longevity; Botham did delivered more often and more consistently with the bat. Be his ATG 149* in Leeds or that he has 14 centuries to Kapil's 8 in less matches. It's kinda a shame he doesn't average 40+ with the bat. The only thing Kapil has going for is his stupidly high Strike rate; which I don't value that much in Tests.

So you consider Kapil the better bowler due to longevity but not the better batsman even though by your exact reasoning for batting, he delivered more often than Kapil with the ball too? 27 5’fers compared to 23 in less matches, 4 10’fers to 2 10’fers