Peak Bumrah vs Peak Akram

[sayon basak]

to be in the conversation? maybe. The GOAT? Nah

If he is in the conversation, it should not be crazy to rate him at the top.

 

[sayon basak]

why do you think people rate Viv over Sangakkara when Sangakkara averages 8 points more?

Because Viv was just better.

 

[capt_Luffy]

If he is in the conversation, it should not be crazy to rate him at the top.

Think like this. I think Gavaskar is in the Best After Don Conversation, but don't think rating him that makes much sense.

 

[sayon basak]

Think like this. I think Gavaskar is in the Best After Don Conversation, but don't think rating him that makes much sense.

Maybe the first thought is wrong.......

 

[capt_Luffy]

Maybe the first thought is wrong.......

Delete it before Kyear sees this.....
And it isn't

 

[subshakerz]

What’s your argument against Bumrah?
If this are his figures say 320 wickets @ 19.8

Incapable of finishing a 5 test series unlike other ATGs. Almost all of them were capable of regularly bowling 150 overs a series of load, especially Marshall.

 

[sayon basak]

Delete it before Kyear sees this.....
And it isn't

You're telling me to delete this for the very reason I posted this?

 

[DrWolverine]

Incapable of finishing a 5 test series unlike other ATGs. Almost all of them were capable of regularly bowling 150 overs a series of load, especially Marshall.

So the only argument is his body being fragile.

 

[subshakerz]

So the only argument is his body being fragile.

To be frank its a bigger issue in the 80s era where 4/5 test series were regularly played.

 

[sayon basak]

Incapable of finishing a 5 test series unlike other ATGs. Almost all of them were capable of regularly bowling 150 overs a series of load, especially Marshall.

Where would you rate him if he fulfills the 300 wicket cutoff? Beside Steyn?

 

[subshakerz]

Where would you rate him if he fulfills the 300 wicket cutoff? Beside Steyn?

Above Steyn but behind Marshall, Hadlee and McGrath because of the workload issue. Yes, even with a 19 average.

 

[DrWolverine]

Where would you rate him if he fulfills the 300 wicket cutoff? Beside Steyn?

Assuming he completes 300 wickets at the current rate, it is tough not to rate him as better. Steyn and even McGrath had few holes in their record.

Maco would perhaps be his only competition since both of them would be similar - Short careers, excellent pretty much against everyone & eveywhere.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Where would you rate him if he fulfills the 300 wicket cutoff? Beside Steyn?

Close to him. Not sure it's enough to overcome Steyn's longevity, and that he had flatter pitches.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

I feel batting lineups were much better in Marshall’s era and McGraths era. Bumrah is probably around Steyn level in quality.

 

[subshakerz]

I feel batting lineups were much better in Marshall’s era and McGraths era. Bumrah is probably around Steyn level in quality.

Yeah seems easier to slice through lineups today than even in the 90s.

 

[subshakerz]

Close to him. Not sure it's enough to overcome Steyn's longevity, and that he had flatter pitches.

Steyn had a 10 year peak taking 5 wickets a test. Very hard for any pure pace bowler to overcome that though pound for pound, Bumrah is better quality in terms of spells.

 

[subshakerz]

Assuming he completes 300 wickets at the current rate, it is tough not to rate him as better. Steyn and even McGrath had few holes in their record.

Maco would perhaps be his only competition since both of them would be similar - Short careers, excellent pretty much against everyone & eveywhere.

McGrath was a machine though and regularly bowled in 5 and 6 test series. Can you imagine the liability of Bumrah breaking down every Ashes?

I think Bumrah edges Steyn though.

 

[Fanboy375]

Where would you rate him if he fulfills the 300 wicket cutoff? Beside Steyn?

Shouldn't his average will go up.He is above 30 years old.

 

[subshakerz]

Shouldn't his average will go up.He is above 30 years old.

I think he has hit peak but don't think he can sustain it longer than 1-2 years.

 

[sayon basak]

I think he has hit peak but don't think he can sustain it longer than 1-2 years.

He could end up with a sub 20 average if he retires in his peak after 2 years.