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Has Patty done enough to surpass Jimmy?
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Pat Cummins vs James Anderson
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Thala_0710
International Regular
Yes
Agonizingly Awkward
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Pat is barely better than Rabada much less Anderson.
Thala_0710
International Regular
Both of them are better than Anderson
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
I think Cummins is a better bowler but Anderson has obviously had the better career.
Thala_0710
International Regular
Has he?
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
Yes.
Thala_0710
International Regular
Nahh
Johan
International Coach
what makes Rabada better?
Cricket Bliss
U19 Vice-Captain
Anderson has 120 more Tests and 400 more wickets than Cummins. A fast bowler playing 120 tests is impressive and that impressiveness is the difference in test played between Anderson and Cummins.
Also at the age of 32 Cummins might be well ahead of Anderson, but after turning 35 something extraordinary happened for Anderson which only a seldom of fast bowlers could ever claim.
Cummins should atleast play half his tests with similar average as he has now to make a claim to be better than Anderson. As of now longevity of Anderson deserves respect.
Also at the age of 32 Cummins might be well ahead of Anderson, but after turning 35 something extraordinary happened for Anderson which only a seldom of fast bowlers could ever claim.
Cummins should atleast play half his tests with similar average as he has now to make a claim to be better than Anderson. As of now longevity of Anderson deserves respect.
Burgey
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Averaged 35 against Australia. Terrific longevity, but that's it compared with Cummins.
Who would you rather face? It's Anderson every day of the week. Which means the answer to the question in the poll is Cummins
ataraxia
International Coach
Awful take. Rabada is a moderate upgrade on Philander and a moderate downgrade on Hazlewood.
Johan
International Coach
Nah he's better than Josh
ataraxia
International Coach
Incorrect; Josh haz le wood on Kagiso.
Johan
International Coach
Kagiso sniffs and rams Josh
Even acknowledging the amount of games Anderson has played and the impressive longevity, as well as noting that a lot of Cummins's success is in a period where pacers have thrived, I'd still take Cummins over Anderson. Gets a lot more wickets while primarily being a first change bowler, and is incredibly well rounded overall with being able to use swing/seam/bouncers at a decent pace. Only mark against him is not knowing how to get Smith and co. to properly rough up the ball without sandpaper.
Thala_0710
International Regular
I've always said ability/quality wise Rabada is more of a wicket taker and strike bowler. The mark against him was his away record in Asia/some major nations. He's cleared that up a bit and looks in his peak right now. It was only Bangladesh but he bowled very very well there on some unhelpful pitches, his performance in this WTC final against Aus has been great too. Imo he has overtaken Anderson, and if he can put in great series in Ind and Aus he can be a contender in the future for the top 10-15 places.
Johan
International Coach
The issue with him is looking completely ineffective against the major nations in Asia, Bangladesh is fine and all but I don't reckon their batting lineup is very productive against top quality fast bowlers, if he manages to perform big in India, Pakistan or Sri Lanka and show he has the skillset for dead wickets I'd be the first person to place him above Anderson but he has not done so far and I just don't know if he has a skillset for dead wickets, which I am more than aware that Anderson did, until Rabada performs well on slow and dead wickets, He can't be placed ahead of Anderson, for example, if he tanks against a transitioning India a bit later nobody would be puttimg him above Anderson. Cummins is a more interesting case, I think he'll perform in Asia eventually so I withhold judgement on him.
Thala_0710
International Regular
Anderson himself wasn't great in Asia though, and Rabada's proving to be better in other places. If he performs in Ind/SL/Pak, as I said he'll move towards the top 10-15 imo
Johan
International Coach
Post 2010 he was very good for a fast bowler in Asia, and had the proper skillset for Asia, and that duration of his career is likely to be as long as Rabada's entire career. Anderson is in my top 20 pacers so as I said, Rabada passes Anderson with a good Asian tour (or if he had a good tour on Australia in the flat era) so if I'm saying Rabada passes Anderson, there's a good possibility he made it to 10-15 for me too, just hasn't done it yet. and I'm afraid one decent tour of Australia and home dominance isn't enough for that, by this line of thought, why isn't Philander better than Anderson as well?
I'm also one of the bigger Rabada fans, but give up on getting caught in the hype.
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