Pat Cummins vs Dennis Lillee

[Johan]

Lindwall is better than either

/sarcasm

 

[capt_Luffy]

Lindwall is better than either

/sarcasm

/Truth

 

[Johan]

/Truth

Lillee just

 

[capt_Luffy]

Lillee just

Lindwall better for me.

 

[Johan]

Lindwall better for me.

rank

Ray Lindwall
Allan Davidson
Dennis Lillee
Pat Cummins

 

[sayon basak]

rank

Ray Lindwall
Allan Davidson
Dennis Lillee
Pat Cummins

Dennis Lillee
Ray Lindwall
Alan Davidson
Pat Cummins for now.

 

[capt_Luffy]

rank

Ray Lindwall
Allan Davidson
Dennis Lillee
Pat Cummins

As bowlers:

Lindwall
Lillee
Cummins
Davidson


As players:

Lindwall
Davidson
Lillee
Cummins

 

[Coronis]

As bowlers:

Lindwall
Lillee
Cummins
Davidson


As players:

Lindwall
Davidson
Lillee
Cummins

I think even if you rate Cummins below Lillee as a bowler but adjacent his batting is well ahead. But tbf wasn’t around for Lillee’s career so might not know about multiple match saving/winning innings he has

 

[capt_Luffy]

I think even if you rate Cummins below Lillee as a bowler but adjacent his batting is well ahead. But tbf wasn’t around for Lillee’s career so might not know about multiple match saving/winning innings he has

Lillee played for longer and had a Great WPM. And there's like 3.6 runs difference in average.

 

[Johan]

bowling

Lillee
Lindwall
Davidson
Cummins

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Lillee
Mcgrath
Lindwall
Davidson
Cummins

 

[Johan]

Lillee
Mcgrath

AND THE CROWD WENT QUIET!

 

[ataraxia]

rank

Ray Lindwall
Allan Davidson
Dennis Lillee
Pat Cummins

As bowlers:

1. Davidson
2. Lindwall
3. Cummins
4. Lillee


As batsmen:

1. Davidson
2. Lindwall
3. Cummins
4. Lillee


As cricketers:

1. Davidson
2. Lindwall
3. Cummins
4. Lillee

 

[Johan]

As bowlers:

1. Davidson
2. Lindwall
3. Cummins
4. Lillee

As batsmen:

1. Davidson
2. Lindwall
3. Cummins
4. Lillee

As cricketers:

1. Davidson
2. Lindwall
3. Cummins
4. Lillee

You are not PEWS, can't pull off the Lillee hate half as well.

 

[ataraxia]

You are not PEWS, can't pull off the Lillee hate half as well.

Ignoring your wrongness, I don't have much of a choice in the matter. Lillee was the Wagner of his age, only Australian and with a solid ODI record. It's not in my nature to innumerately ignore his general ineptness.

 

[ataraxia]

Also http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/threads/dennis-lillee-v-jimmy-anderson.92049/

 

[Coronis]

As bowlers:

1. Davidson
2. Lindwall
3. Cummins
4. Lillee


As batsmen:

1. Davidson
2. Lindwall
3. Cummins
4. Lillee


As cricketers:

1. Davidson
2. Lindwall
3. Cummins
4. Lillee

As people?

 

[ataraxia]

As people?

An oldie but a goodie (if from a baddie):

Starting the Australian discussion by comparing Lillee and Davidson. Why is Lillee in the first team where Davidson was the better bowler, better batsman, better fielder, better human being, better team-man and provided added variety?

I'd like to hear some detailed reasoning from someone, hopefully backed by some stats.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Looks like Cummins is rated above guys like Pollock, Walsh, and maybe Davo now but still below all the other ATGs

Dont think his rating will change much from here actually

 

[DrWolverine]

Walsh & Pollock ahead of Cummins & Rabada