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venomous

Cricket Spectator
aussie said:
for the sake of public interest Sachin Tendulkar has to play regarding his performaces over the last 2 years, plus how do you know is elbow injury is incurable, thats weird mate :p
if its for the sake of public interest then y don't we just call back Vv Richard, Imran Khan, Sunil Gavaskar, Ian Botham, Mark Waugh and other greats to take on Aussies!

And regarding Sachin's injury, i think u don't follow much of cricket lad.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Beleg said:
Inzamam's ODI record against Australia is nothing home to write about (some really crazy pitches were produced in the Benson Hedges series of the early and mid 90's) - though it has imporved a lot of late.
but is Gibbs own that better, i dont think so when i cant remember Gibbs doing anything special consistently againts AUS in the VB 2001, 7 ODI's in SA nor the 3 ODI's in the indoor stadium in 2000, fact is Inzi should have been picked.
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
AndrewM said:
IMO, Bond and Cairns should have been added for the one-day squad.

Our two most destructive players.

Also the fact that both play extremely well against Australia.. its a shame.

Especially Bondy.. 6 for 23 anyone?
Where has this myth that Cairns plays extremely well against Australia come from

bowling average over 35, ER over 5, batting average 23
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
venomous said:
if its for the sake of public interest then y don't we just call back Vv Richard, Imran Khan, Sunil Gavaskar, Ian Botham, Mark Waugh and other greats to take on Aussies!

And regarding Sachin's injury, i think u don't follow much of cricket lad.
hold their sparky ask i'm sure the hold world would love to see Lara & Tendulkar batting in the same team againts Australia they are modern greats so refering to Imran etc is irrelevant. Secondly to be quick to say i dont follow much cricket since i have NEVER heard that his elbow injury is INCURABLE, its just a recuring injury that may bother him for the rest of his career.

Look at Flintoff he had some injury on his foot earlier this year & he went to pro's & he ok now......
 

magsi23

U19 Debutant
venomous said:
What on Earth??..No Inzy?...Wow! that's a big blow. I thought selection was based on last 1-2 year performance, so howcome Tendu made ahead of Inzy?..That guy's tennis elbow is uncurable. His legendary form has come to an end..Why don't you understand ICC? I know he's a great player, but recently he hasn't played much cricket, so ICC or Gavaskar shld i say, should haven given Inzy a go. And what 6 South Africans are doing over there? what is Pietersen doing over there? and and man i have a big list, can't post all of them, so will conclude with "Totally biased and flawed selection!"

Couldnt agree with you more mate, pollock and smith captains? thats like a joke to me, even south africans themselves wont make pollock captain in ODI's, but i just think its all Political selection and not based on players performance at all, how could you pick ntini over bond? boucher over sangakara, Gibbs over Inzi and the list goes on and on, completely disapointed kinda ruined it.
 

magsi23

U19 Debutant
aussie said:
hold their sparky ask i'm sure the hold world would love to see Lara & Tendulkar batting in the same team againts Australia they are modern greats so refering to Imran etc is irrelevant. Secondly to be quick to say i dont follow much cricket since i have NEVER heard that his elbow injury is INCURABLE, its just a recuring injury that may bother him for the rest of his career.

Look at Flintoff he had some injury on his foot earlier this year & he went to pro's & he ok now......
He is right mate for sure you dont follow cricket, Sachin's injury is career threatining, its not a normal injury like others players you reffering to, nobody is denying the fact that sachin is a great player, but point is we shouldnt select players on their legendery status its just not justified, last 12 months whats sachins performance? let alone his performance against australia in australia even when he was fully fit? im sure you dont know the asnwer
 

magsi23

U19 Debutant
I would rather see inform Mohamed Ashraful of bangladesh than injured sachin who hasnt played any cricket for months let alone international cricket.
 

venomous

Cricket Spectator
magsi23 said:
I would rather see inform Mohamed Ashraful of bangladesh than injured sachin who hasnt played any cricket for months let alone international cricket.
Very well said.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
magsi23 said:
He is right mate for sure you dont follow cricket, Sachin's injury is career threatining, its not a normal injury like others players you reffering to, nobody is denying the fact that sachin is a great player, but point is we shouldnt select players on their legendery status its just not justified, last 12 months whats sachins performance? let alone his performance against australia in australia even when he was fully fit? im sure you dont know the asnwer
i'm not saying is not carrer threatening but is it incurable i dont think so, i refer to Flintoff again his cortezone injury his injury until he went to specialist was career threatening but now he is ok. Secondly i'm since you are so full of it in questioning what i'm saying about Tendulkar & his injury when you dont quite get my point you would know that Tendulkar has changed his game completely in Test since the 2002 Uk tour (he has changed from a Sehwag mold but with a tighter technique to a very defensive test batsman) thus he didn't make much runs down under in 2003/04, his 241 in sydeny sums it up perfectly after failing throughout the series prior to the SCG test he cut out all of his off side shots until he passed 150 & i remember vividly about 75 % runswere scored on the leg-side, so i do know :p

Plus i think the selectors are seeing it my way thus they wouldn't have picked Tendulkar even when its touch & go whether he will be back playing in time for the super-series so dont waste your time arguing on whether he should be in the sqaud or not or not......
 

greg

International Debutant
I don't quite understand what Flintoff's heel spur has got to do with Tendulkar's elbow. Just because one is curable by an operation doesn't mean the other is.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
greg said:
I don't quite understand what Flintoff's heel spur has got to do with Tendulkar's elbow. Just because one is curable by an operation doesn't mean the other is.
well its seems as if Freddie's injury is curede now but i'm not sure if you remember on the last day of the last test when he was bowling at the stretford end where the crease had a whole he didn't risk bowling at that end because he knew that he could cause that injury to rear up again.

To say the injury is INCURABLE is not the right word because if it was tendulkar wouldn't have played any cricket since the injury first occured after the Asia cup last year.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
I would have liked to see Kaneria over Vettori and and infuriated over Inzy being left out.
 

greg

International Debutant
aussie said:
well its seems as if Freddie's injury is curede now but i'm not sure if you remember on the last day of the last test when he was bowling at the stretford end where the crease had a whole he didn't risk bowling at that end because he knew that he could cause that injury to rear up again.

To say the injury is INCURABLE is not the right word because if it was tendulkar wouldn't have played any cricket since the injury first occured after the Asia cup last year.
This is all semantics. Michael Atherton had an incurable back condition for most of his later career which eventually caused his retirement. That's what happens with degenerative conditions. You can often play with them (even if somewhat restricted - Atherton couldn't duck bouncers, for example) but they don't get any better.

As for Freddie and the hole - i don't think that was anything to do with his injury. It just isn't a good idea for fast bowlers to bowl when they're not certain about the ground they're landing on. Lee had the same problem.
 
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aussie

Hall of Fame Member
greg said:
This is all semantics. Michael Atherton had an incurable back condition for most of his later career which eventually caused his retirement. That's what happens with degenerative conditions. You can often play with them (even if somewhat restricted - Atherton couldn't duck bouncers, for example) but they don't get any better.

As for Freddie and the hole - i don't think that was anything to do with his injury. It just isn't a good idea for fast bowlers to bowl when they're not certain about the ground they're landing on. Lee had the same problem.
fair enough then since i'm aware of Atherton & the problems he had in the latter part of his career i'll take your assesment but has i said before for public interest we would all love to see Tendulkar & Lara batting togehter & their is no point arguing about it since the selectors are obviosuly thinking the same way.......
 

magsi23

U19 Debutant
aussie said:
fair enough then since i'm aware of Atherton & the problems he had in the latter part of his career i'll take your assesment but has i said before for public interest we would all love to see Tendulkar & Lara batting togehter & their is no point arguing about it since the selectors are obviosuly thinking the same way.......

Chill out mate, no body is arguing here, this site is meant to give your own opinion, and selectors are not gods they do make mistakes too and clearly there are some here as well.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
magsi23 said:
Chill out mate, no body is arguing here, this site is meant to give your own opinion, and selectors are not gods they do make mistakes too and clearly there are some here as well.
i know but answer this wouldn't you want to see Lara & Tendulkar batting together..... :)
 

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