Cabinet96
Global Moderator
The duke hasn't swung as much in recent seasons either. Even bowlers like Anderson are relying more and more on seam movement and the wobble seam delivery. Barely anyone even tried to swing the ball in the Ashes.
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*Official* England in New Zealand 2019
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thierry henry
International Coach
hang on, this complete dickhead doing the cricinfo commentary is apparently "George"
The Hutt Rec
International Vice-Captain
Both sides have put down plenty of catches and missed run outs in this match too, would easily have been a result if they’d all been taken.
Flem274*
123/5
no we shouldn't, and definitely not in fc cricket
it would make it easier for duke countries to adapt to us, and push us further away from australia and south africa.
we're already very hard to tour for most countries. i guarantee you the current indian attack will do better than england here.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
omg just saw that drop, that's amazing 
I thought Archer took it surprisingly well. Laugh, cry, both at the same time, better than screaming at the fielder I guess.
England had a good opportunity to put pressure on NZ this morning and by dropping Williamson twice they've blown it.
I thought Archer took it surprisingly well. Laugh, cry, both at the same time, better than screaming at the fielder I guess.
England had a good opportunity to put pressure on NZ this morning and by dropping Williamson twice they've blown it.
Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
I'm pretty sure it's Andrew "Ball tampering should be legal" Miller.
Saw it online? I'm hunting for a look, I hear it was up there as one of the greatest ****ups of all timeomg just saw that drop, that's amazing
I thought Archer took it surprisingly well. Laugh, cry, both at the same time, better than screaming at the fielder I guess.
England had a good opportunity to put pressure on NZ this morning and by dropping Williamson twice they've blown it.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
There is this link though you might need to get around geoblock https://twitter.com/SkyCricket/status/1201631092111028224
thierry henry
International Coach
yep a later comment confirmed this...I guess it's the commenters taking the piss out of Dobell
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Now it's Valkerie Baynes which is a ****ing awesome name
Ha, the old 'death of Test cricket' rears its pathetic, predictable, gormless head again. George Dobell in one of the most laughable rants I've ever read.
Apart from everything else, this might be the worst analogy of all time:
"They get results in the end like at Mt Maunganui…(but) a rock fall can be quite dramatic, it could be good TV, but a thousand years of erosion which caused it isn't good TV and I don't think the end justifies the terribly attritional means.
WTF does that even mean? And the word 'modernity' after it, as some sort of signal of intellect?
Absolutely smacks of recency bias 'the worst series he's seen in 20 years' (OK....). The first Test was ****ing great. This one, yeah OK not the greatest spectacle of all time. But how many dropped catches have there been?
Then the writer goes on about no one flocking in to see Joe Root tuck off his hip or leave outside off stump. This confirms to me he has no idea, and potentially hasn't actually watched Test cricket in his life. The England captain who's battled incredibly for 18 months scores a potentially career altering double hundred, and Dobell says it's boring? Cmon man.
Apart from everything else, this might be the worst analogy of all time:
"They get results in the end like at Mt Maunganui…(but) a rock fall can be quite dramatic, it could be good TV, but a thousand years of erosion which caused it isn't good TV and I don't think the end justifies the terribly attritional means.
WTF does that even mean? And the word 'modernity' after it, as some sort of signal of intellect?
Absolutely smacks of recency bias 'the worst series he's seen in 20 years' (OK....). The first Test was ****ing great. This one, yeah OK not the greatest spectacle of all time. But how many dropped catches have there been?
Then the writer goes on about no one flocking in to see Joe Root tuck off his hip or leave outside off stump. This confirms to me he has no idea, and potentially hasn't actually watched Test cricket in his life. The England captain who's battled incredibly for 18 months scores a potentially career altering double hundred, and Dobell says it's boring? Cmon man.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
It was partly because NZ were in big trouble at 170/5, so they did need to avoid risks for a while to recover. Probably wouldn't have score quite so slowly if weren't 1-0 up, sure. At the same time, England did bowl tight and every time from an NZ batsman tried to force the pace from there, they got out.
Agree - it is annoying though that ball-swings/ ball-does-not-swing seems to have become such a binary thing in NZ, with the latter case more common and it really is hard to get wickets then. Personally I'd prefer the pitches were a bit quicker at least.
And this is true as well, between this and better weather we should still be in a position for a result one way or another on day five here.
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NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Taylor feels like he's been around forever but Root, who has been playing Test cricket just over half the time Taylor has, has more runs in 7 fewer innings
Athlai
Not Terrible
England do play 100 Tests a year tbf. All of them more interesting than this one too.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
Broad's played almost twice the number of tests that Southee has too, having debuted at a similar time.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Still annoyed that Cricinfo replaced their handy statistics tab during a game with some detailed 'where batsmen are strongest' setup which I personally don't give a **** about
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Further proof the English class system is still going strong
And by strong I mean as weak as ever