KP vs AB: Who was the better test bat?

[TheJediBrah]

Don't really get the 'AB and it's not close' posts. I can only presume that's owing to KP's personality.

Nail -> Head.

I want to say AB but comparing their careers and what they actually did it's probably KP that comes out on top. People skewing things (either knowingly or subconsciously) because of 1) KP's personality and 2) AB's potential.

 

[SteveNZ]

Yeah he always somehow got backed in to a corner and made it look like he is the victim and its him vs the world. But the fun part is he always seems to come triumphant. It was always great theatre with KP. Had they picked him for 15 ashes on the back of that triple for Surrey, I have no doubt he would have orchestrated a similar redemption story. Such an enigma

Thing is as well, when he scored that triple ton - from memory - he started beating his chest and playing up the fact he was rearing to go and should be picked. And he had that insufferable douche Piers on his team too.

I don't blame anyone who holds it against KP's legacy that he ratted out his team as he did in the SA series. If we're saying who's the better Test batsman, I think it's even with AB and KP. If we're saying who's career was better, you'd have to factor in that KP was a massively sub-par person.

 

[Chrish]

Abdv is a legit ATG for me.. Played 114 tests and averaged almost 51 and scored runs everywhere..

KP is sort of like Clarke or VVS. Special player but not quite ATG level..

 

[Bijed]

Nail -> Head

> Wade

 

[Prince EWS]

> Wade

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[Raz0r6ack]

I mean these three were always scoring runs tbf, it's not his fault he batted after them and there already was a platform set most of the time he walked to the crease.

It's not like his numbers dipped after they started retiring/Amla started becoming awful.

He opened at the start of his career and was pushed down the order because he was averaging mid 30s and was much better down the order.

He probably would've become a good top order player but there's a reason why he batted at 5/6.

 

[Kirkut]

KP for me.

That 158 in the final Ashes test and his 189 against us, gold stuff.

 

[Gob]

KB

 

[Bolo.]

I think hardly anyone is capable of objectively differentiating between the two on the basis of great innings. They both played so many that it will mostly boil down to who you watched more of.

 

[honestbharani]

KB

Yes?

 

[Arachnodouche]

KP. Both equally audacious but KP was box-office on and off the field.

KP also came out on tops against McWarne by sheer force of personality, very early on in his career. AB never really had to face that combination of talent and obnoxiousness in a bowler (he flopped in the two series against Aus early doors but he was a rookie...so was KP but whatever). Never had to bat against Steyn either.

 

[Gob]

I think hardly anyone is capable of objectively differentiating between the two on the basis of great innings. They both played so many that it will mostly boil down to who you watched more of.

KP is comfortably ahead in this regard. DeVilliers has a significantly better away record

 

[subshakerz]

KP. Both equally audacious but KP was box-office on and off the field.

KP also came out on tops against McWarne by sheer force of personality, very early on in his career. AB never really had to face that combination of talent and obnoxiousness in a bowler (he flopped in the two series against Aus early doors but he was a rookie...so was KP but whatever). Never had to bat against Steyn either.

Yeah, I don't feel enough posters are giving KP credit for a good showing against McWarne. Also did well against Steyn and Murali (at home at least). A bit more consistency and KP would have averaged over 50.

 

[subshakerz]

Despite being a great bat, DeVilliers seemed overshadowed by Amla, Kallis and maybe Smith until only late in his career, whereas KP was always the standout bat for his side, with perhaps Cook coming close.

 

[Bolo.]

KP. Both equally audacious but KP was box-office on and off the field.

KP also came out on tops against McWarne by sheer force of personality, very early on in his career. AB never really had to face that combination of talent and obnoxiousness in a bowler (he flopped in the two series against Aus early doors but he was a rookie...so was KP but whatever). Never had to bat against Steyn either.

AB as rookie was a 20 year old middle order bat who had been forced to open by team needs, against both his natural postition, and where he had played his entire career.

KP was a mid 20s middle order bat, batting in position, and kept out of a slightly earlier debut by qualification rules.

Which would you expect to start stronger?

 

[Gob]

AB as rookie was a 20 year old middle order bat who had been forced to open by team needs, against both his natural postition, and where he had played his entire career.

KP was a mid 20s middle order bat, batting in position, and kept out of a slightly earlier debut by qualification rules.

Which would you expect to start stronger?

AB

 

[Bolo.]

AB

Troll on.

 

[Gob]

Troll on.

When you are young, you have no fear of failure or insecurities.

 

[Bolo.]

When you are young, you have no fear of failure or insecurities.

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[Gob]

Revised ATG XI, proudly presented by Gob:

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