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Three defensive batsmen
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Kallis vs Waugh vs Dravid
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HouHsiaoHsien
International Debutant
Steve Waugh very easily. Second best of the 90s, after Sachin, and played so many vital knocks against ATG bowlers(Ambrose, Donald, the 2 Ws). Well balanced record too, with NZ and SL the poor spots, but against all the strong teams, really great.
subshakerz
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Exactly. Kallis and to a certain extent Dravid's record are inflated by the flat era of the 2000s.
Also Steve Waugh, was a grinder, not a defensive bat.
HouHsiaoHsien
International Debutant
So finally HB and Subz agree on something(going by the votes). Must be the end of the world today
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I am not anti-HB. He is anti-me though.
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International Captain
How and when did this one sided feud start?
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Not sure. Probably when I was critiquing Sehwag or Kohli and then it descended into him and a bunch of other patriots against me, thread after thread.
HouHsiaoHsien
International Debutant
Tbf you are one of the people on the forum, who are positive about Kohli the bat rather than the other way
subshakerz
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It was Kohli the captain.
Red_Ink_Squid
Global Moderator
Surprisingly @Prince EWS's standardised averages model seems to think Waugh had much easier batting conditions on average across his career than Kallis did, which is the opposite of what you'd expect given he played through the early 90s and missed most of the 00s run fest era. What's up with that PEWS, does your model just think SA is that much harder to bat in than Aus?
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
About your critiques of Indian players, the only ones I have a problem with are the spinner duo; everyone else, I surprisingly agree with you, while disagree with most others on CW (ex- Dravid, Sehwag, Kohli (both as a batsman and captain), etc.)..... Among your other takes I have seen, you downplay Kallis too much, simultaneously overhyping Ponting and yeah, I think you overrate Imran Khan a bit.....
Red_Ink_Squid
Global Moderator
The day Subshakerz dissed Kohli's captaincy was the most important day of HB's life. For Subz, it was Tuesday.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Yeah muh roads in Aus and muh greentops in SA.
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
I have them Kallis > Waugh > Dravid.
In matches played in SA that Kallis played in the average was 31.27
In matches played in Aus that Waugh played in the average was 33.75
Hmm idr his model or anything but obviously Home conditions will be a major factor.
In matches played in SA that Kallis played in the average was 31.27
In matches played in Aus that Waugh played in the average was 33.75
OverratedSanity
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Kallis>Dravid>=Waugh
subshakerz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I am actually a big fan of the Ganguly/Dhoni team so I don't get where being anti-India comes from.
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Maybe it started here.
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