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Jasprit Bumrah vs Joel Garner

Who is the better test bowler?


  • Total voters
    27

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
He had 3/4th of career in ATG level. Fans often discount him due to his last 3 years and he did lose the ability to take 5-fers.
Almost 0 batsmen or bowlers were at “ATG level” their entire career. You could argue Tendulkar was only at ATG level for 3/4 of his career.
 

DrWolverine

International Captain
Almost 0 batsmen or bowlers were at “ATG level” their entire career.
Technically speaking, Ken Barrington was ATG for the majority of his career.

Ken scored a 50 in just his 3rd Test and was very consistent till the end of his career.

He never averaged below 40 in two consecutive test series.

Everytime he averaged below 40 in a test series, he bounced back in the next series.

Against SA, he averaged 37 in a series.
Next series, he averaged 45.50 in Ashes.

Against Pak, he once averaged 20 in a series.
Next series, he averaged 75 in Ashes.

Against WI, he averaged 27.5 in a series.
In the next two series, he scored 500+ runs.

Against SA, he averaged 33 in a series.
Next series, he averaged 67 in Australia.

*He was dropped after 2 Tests.
He came back after 4 years.
 

PlayerComparisons

International Captain
Technically speaking, Ken Barrington was ATG for the majority of his career.

Ken scored a 50 in just his 3rd Test and was very consistent till the end of his career.

He never averaged below 40 in two consecutive test series.

Everytime he averaged below 40 in a test series, he bounced back in the next series.

Against SA, he averaged 37 in a series.
Next series, he averaged 45.50 in Ashes.

Against Pak, he once averaged 20 in a series.
Next series, he averaged 75 in Ashes.

Against WI, he averaged 27.5 in a series.
In the next two series, he scored 500+ runs.

Against SA, he averaged 33 in a series.
Next series, he averaged 67 in Australia.

*He was dropped after 2 Tests.
He came back after 4 years.
Makes it easier when you only play for 9 years tbf
 

sayon basak

International Coach
Technically speaking, Ken Barrington was ATG for the majority of his career.

Ken scored a 50 in just his 3rd Test and was very consistent till the end of his career.

He never averaged below 40 in two consecutive test series.

Everytime he averaged below 40 in a test series, he bounced back in the next series.

Against SA, he averaged 37 in a series.
Next series, he averaged 45.50 in Ashes.

Against Pak, he once averaged 20 in a series.
Next series, he averaged 75 in Ashes.

Against WI, he averaged 27.5 in a series.
In the next two series, he scored 500+ runs.

Against SA, he averaged 33 in a series.
Next series, he averaged 67 in Australia.

*He was dropped after 2 Tests.
He came back after 4 years.
Ken Barrington is arguably not even an ATG.
 

PlayerComparisons

International Captain
According to the polls here, Cummins beat Pollock comfortably and tied Davidson. Certainly not ridiculous to rate him as an ATG.

Rabada is at that level too imo and arguably better than Cummins.
 

ma1978

International Debutant
Ken Barrington is not a popular name. Maybe even forgotten now but undoubtedly he is an all time great.
it’s the opposite, he was not seen as remotely great then but has been “rediscovered” because people see his stats without context
 

Johan

Hall of Fame Member
it’s the opposite, he was not seen as remotely great then but has been “rediscovered” because people see his stats without context
He was always seen as one of the reliable run accumulators of them all, the writers from that era diffrentiated between run accumulators and batsmen, the modern ones don't and therefore he gets rated higher. Nobody cares about elegance, range, talent and entertainment anymore
 

Johan

Hall of Fame Member
I think Hutton was an ATG his entire career except 1946 (mangled arm) and 1954-55, IE when he retired.
 

PlayerComparisons

International Captain
Barrington and Compton had opposite reputations back then. Compton was rated as a top tier ATG back then but is now losing to Miandad in polls.
 

DrWolverine

International Captain
it’s the opposite, he was not seen as remotely great then but has been “rediscovered” because people see his stats without context
Ken Barrington was an accumulator and played ultra defensively in the most boring period of cricket and that’s why he is not regarded highly.
 

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