Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah I figured, but still.
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Jacques Kallis vs Keith Miller
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DrWolverine
International Vice-Captain
Botham’s centuries
1. NZ : Hadlee
2. Pak : Nawaz
3. Pak : Qasim
4. Ind : Kapil, Bedi
5. Aus : Lillee
6. Ind : Kapil
7. Aus : Lillee, Alderman
8. Aus : Lillee, Alderman
9. Ind : Kapil
10. Ind : Kapil
11. Ind : Kapil
12. NZ : Hadlee
13. NZ : Hadlee
14. Aus : Hughes, Reid
Yes he did not have a century against WestIndies but he has 6 of them against Hadlee & Lillee.
1. NZ : Hadlee
2. Pak : Nawaz
3. Pak : Qasim
4. Ind : Kapil, Bedi
5. Aus : Lillee
6. Ind : Kapil
7. Aus : Lillee, Alderman
8. Aus : Lillee, Alderman
9. Ind : Kapil
10. Ind : Kapil
11. Ind : Kapil
12. NZ : Hadlee
13. NZ : Hadlee
14. Aus : Hughes, Reid
Yes he did not have a century against WestIndies but he has 6 of them against Hadlee & Lillee.
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
It's just stupid how good he was at first.
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
"He is a yobbo, who was never as good as he thinks. only did well because all the best players had joined Packer."
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
He’d probably be rated even higher if that happened
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
unironically true. Everyone would have him as high as I do.
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
I really need to know what Botham did to irk Compton so much!
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
It's very out of character too, Compton has a reputation for being carefree nice and easy going. Maybe all that was because he concentrated all the hatred to just Botham.
During the 1980s Botham became the biggest name in English cricket since Grace. Almost bigger than the game. Some of the old players didn't like it, and also genuinely believed his figures had flattered him. In some ways Compton and Botham had much in common. Neither took things too seriously, both were generous souls who enjoyed the night life, and each played professional football. Neither were selfish cricketers. But Compton strongly disapproved of what he considered brash and loutish behaviour, and had shown a similar lack of sympathy towards the young Trueman.
Much the same had happened to Greig a few years before. More than once on commentary Jim Laker described his bowling as "rubbish". On another occasion Greig was batting with Cowdrey and went down the pitch to talk to him, prompting Laker to sigh: "I really hope he isn't trying to tell Colin how to bat".
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
I’m curious if Botham ever does take cheap shots at current cricketers, just so we could shove this back in his face.
Also TIL Compton, kind of a ****. Not in the good way sadly.
Jeez that’s some pathetic **** from Laker.
Gavaskar just trying to emulate his predecessors clearly.
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
eh He's fine, lots of older Cricketers bully Botham though, Compton is just the one who is the most comical with his blunt disapproval, Larwood and Trueman openly mocked Botham too. Bedser also insulted him and more or less forced him to resign, Kinda feel bad for him.
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Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
They probably just hate him cos they ain’t him tbh. None of them had his talent, and none of them ever became Lords.
Plus none of them apparently got to smoke weed either.
Johan
Hall of Fame Member
Possible.
I also think it might have to do with how both Trueman and Larwood feuded with the establishment and Botham very much was the golden boy of it until the weed drama, seeing someone they considered inferior in bowling to them (which he was to Fred atleast) being so celebrated while they were treated as disposable must've stung.
DrWolverine
International Vice-Captain
After reading Viv Richards’ autobiography, I see Botham differently. Viv praised him for two incidents.
In 1986, Somerset felt that Viv was getting old and decided to replace him with Crowe. Botham felt that this was disrespectful to Viv who had played an important role in making them a great club and he quit in protest of how they handled his friend.
Viv talked about racism and color issues. He felt black players such as himself were not okay with touring South Africa. He said he could understand why white players toured there since cricket was not a rich sport and those tours offered good money. He talked about how Botham refused to go there saying “If I went there, how could I face my buddy Viv” and Viv said his respect for Botham went up 10x after his refusal to tour SA.
In 1986, Somerset felt that Viv was getting old and decided to replace him with Crowe. Botham felt that this was disrespectful to Viv who had played an important role in making them a great club and he quit in protest of how they handled his friend.
Viv talked about racism and color issues. He felt black players such as himself were not okay with touring South Africa. He said he could understand why white players toured there since cricket was not a rich sport and those tours offered good money. He talked about how Botham refused to go there saying “If I went there, how could I face my buddy Viv” and Viv said his respect for Botham went up 10x after his refusal to tour SA.