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Jacques Kallis vs Imran Khan

Who is the greater test cricketer?

  • Imran but it’s close

    Votes: 21 58.3%

  • Imran and it’s not close

    Votes: 10 27.8%

  • Kallis but it’s close

    Votes: 5 13.9%

  • Kallis and it’s not close

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    36
subshakerz

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
kyear2 said:
He does rate Gilly higher. That statement about Flower was a one off. He had an entire discussion about the AT keeper selection and Flower's name didn't come up once. Not even in jest.
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He rates Knott higher than Gilly. In fact he made some good arguments, I am leaning towards that actually.
 
Thala_0710

Thala_0710

International Captain
Yeah he did make the case because it's close and Knott's a good option. Not sure he rates him higher though.
He rates Ames quite highly too iirc.
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
kyear2 said:
Yeah, and I know you're kidding.

As it's not so much that m he rates his keeping, he doesn't really rate Gilly's that highly.

The amount of time he's quoted Warne, though he acknowledges the context and the relationship.
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Yeah he's big on the Warne/Berry stuff.
 
kyear2

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
Thala_0710 said:
Does he? I'm not sure.
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I think he does.

The thing about Gilly is that he was a world class keeper.

But any of us who grew up watching Healy, knows that he wasn't an ATG gloveman, and Heal's was easily his superior and it wasn't close.

His batting while great (or for reference, what some call ATVG), it has more to do with the impact than the average, as even the fraud 4 are docked for the era.

I have him and Knott and ATG's, with Evans perilously close, and the great thing about Gilchrist and the two definitive points for him to make any AT team is the presence of Warne and how well he handled him, and that he allows the selection of the best attack without worry about batting (I know you're a bat deep guy).

But as one who I believe rates Imran bowling pretty highly, a Knott / Imran pairing make up for Gilly's production with the bat, giving you an elite Keeper and you still get your reverse.

Think that was Kimber's exact argument for Knott tbh.

Thoughts?
 
MasterBlaster24

MasterBlaster24

U19 Debutant
subshakerz said:
Yes he thinks he is underrated as a bat and overrated as bowler. I have the opposite views lol. He rates him no.3 AR the same as I do.
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I also agree with the majority of his cricketing opinions, with the exception of the fact that he selected Flower over Gilly as a wicketkeeper batter.
 
Thala_0710

Thala_0710

International Captain
kyear2 said:
I think he does.

The thing about Gilly is that he was a world class keeper.

But any of us who grew up watching Healy, knows that he wasn't an ATG gloveman, and Heal's was easily his superior and it wasn't close.

His batting while great (or for reference, what some call ATVG), it has more to do with the impact than the average, as even the fraud 4 are docked for the era.

I have him and Knott and ATG's, with Evans perilously close, and the great thing about Gilchrist and the two definitive points for him to make any AT team is the presence of Warne and how well he handled him, and that he allows the selection of the best attack without worry about batting (I know you're a bat deep guy).

But as one who I believe rates Imran bowling pretty highly, a Knott / Imran pairing make up for Gilly's production with the bat, giving you an elite Keeper and you still get your reverse.

Think that was Kimber's exact argument for Knott tbh.

Thoughts?
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I think he made that an argument for the sake of making an argument, as in that's the argument to be made for selecting knott over Gilly. Gilly's argument wasn't made because well, it's quite obvious. Don't know still he selects Knott or Gilly. The gap is bigger in batting, but keeping is the primary skill.
To me, I'll select Gilly, but Knott isn't far off.
 
kyear2

kyear2

Hall of Fame Member
Thala_0710 said:
I think he made that an argument for the sake of making an argument, as in that's the argument to be made for selecting knott over Gilly. Gilly's argument wasn't made because well, it's quite obvious. Don't know still he selects Knott or Gilly. The gap is bigger in batting, but keeping is the primary skill.
To me, I'll select Gilly, but Knott isn't far off.
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Gilly for me is a first choice as well. And to be clear, Gilchrist in a vacuum is fine, it's just when compared to the Knott's and the Healy's that you see that there's more there.
 
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