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Is Maxwell better than Kohli? Analysing strike rate vs average in ODIs

stephen

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RPI helps openers and punishes middle order hitters.

Funnily enough it's often used too criticise Bevan, but Bevan has the highest rpi batting at 6 by a long way.
 

TheJediBrah

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Doesn't RPI equally penalize the batsman who come in during the final 5 overs?
Using RPI instead of average to judge a player would be like being 1-10 chasing 300 in an ODI and choosing Maxwell to bat for you instead of Kohli. Pure idiocy.
 

mr_mister

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Using RPI instead of average to judge a player would be like being 1-10 chasing 300 in an ODI and choosing Maxwell to bat for you instead of Kohli. Pure idiocy.
Could use Maxi as a pinch hitter. I assume the field would still be up ;)
 

Burner

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Which is almost the exact same difference between de Villiers and Sangakkara in that same rating system.
Heh I don't think that example does your argument any good because Sangakkara is in fact a country mile behind De Villiers.
 

mr_mister

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Would we say Steve Waugh was a moderate upgrade over Mark in tests and vice versa in ODIs? Now would we allow Sachin to be considered only a moderate upgrade over Steve in tests?

And would we say the gap between Steve and Mark in ODIs is the same as Sachin and Mark?
 
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ankitj

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Jayasuriya is really hard to rate because he was such a different player before his breakout 96 WC. And the period before was 7 years of him being pretty dreadful over a large sample size.

I know there's other players like this who improved after their role in the side changed but he's the most extreme example. Only averaged early 30s overall but got 28 tons lol. The other players who scored 25+ tons all averaged over 40. Pretty damn ridiculous, and of course his strike rate was explosive in 96

Not saying hes neccesarily better than Ponting but I wouldn't scoff at the suggestion
You are quite right. I never bothered to split Jayasuirya's record into stages. Always rated Jayasuriya low as batsman because of his low average but high enough as an all-rounder. Turns out I was a bit wrong. Since start of 1996 world cup until end of his career in 2011, he averaged 36 at SR of 94 in a total of 346 matches. Before that he averaged just 19 at SR of 74 in 99 matches!
 

mr_mister

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You are quite right. I never bothered to split Jayasuirya's record into stages. Always rated Jayasuriya low as batsman because of his low average but high enough as an all-rounder. Turns out I was a bit wrong. Since start of 1996 world cup until end of his career in 2011, he averaged 36 at SR of 94 in a total of 346 matches. Before that he averaged just 19 at SR of 74 in 99 matches!
Yeah. Was lucky to be even given the opportunity to do what he did in the 96 cup, he wasn't exactly a young rookie given a license, he was a failing veteran probably on his last chance. Man he had a long career.
 

Flem274*

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Mind you, ODI stats are useless anyway, so have at it
i've seen you post this several times with no further comment. at first glance your opinion is richard-esque in both it's dismissiveness and ample room provided for you to argue according to your own biases, so how have you come to this conclusion?
 

Daemon

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i've seen you post this several times with no further comment. at first glance your opinion is richard-esque in both it's dismissiveness and ample room provided for you to argue according to your own biases, so how have you come to this conclusion?
He’s just sore that PH Spark never came good in the Horrigan Cup
 

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