DrWolverine
International Vice-Captain
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Greg Chappell vs Fred Trueman
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Johan
International Coach
Chappell has the same issues as Trueman (2/3rds at home, relatively modest records in relevant overseas countries) that convineantly get ignored because he has a nice moustache or something, so on the account of more home dominance and being a frontline pacer, Trueman would beat the dogshit out of WSC-less Chappell. WSC-Boost Chappell is close though but still Trueman due to the 1963-64 Windies series.
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
Greg is really overrated....... Literally everything you can criticise Trueman for, Greg had it worse. And above it, he also had a fairly Short career, while Trueman played on and on.
DrWolverine
International Vice-Captain
Fred Trueman’s memorable away performances
1960 : 5 Tests. 21 wkts @ 26 in WestIndies.
1962 : 5 Tests. 20 wkts @ 26 in Australia.
1963 : 2 Tests. 14 wkts @ 11 in NewZealand.
Greg Chappell’s memorable away performances.
1972 : 5 Tests. 437 runs @ 48 in England.
1973 : 5 Tests. 342 runs @ 49 in WestIndies.
1974 : 3 Tests. 449 runs @ 90 in NewZealand.
1979 : 3 Tests. 381 runs @ 76 in Pakistan.
1982 : 3 Tests. 235 runs @ 75 in NewZealand.
Greg’s best performance was in the 1978 WSC in WestIndies where he scored 620 against the likes of Andy Roberts, Michael Holding and Colin Croft.
Johan
International Coach
The Highlighted aren't as good as the stats imply they are or just straight up don't matter, Like Greg averages 40 in New Zealand outside of one road, was average in Pakistan on wickets that could have results, averages 40 in english Ashes to Trueman's 26 in Australia and Trueman's 1960 WI blows away Greg's 1973 West Indies.
Regardless, I think the majority of the forum doesn't count WSC, in my thread this was the result, the vast majority think that they are equivalent to first class records.
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And if First Class Records from Chappell are to be mentioned, they would also be mentioned for Trueman and at that point it'd become a complete mess, Trueman for example performed well in India against very strong batting lineups in FC games, should we bring that up?
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