Graham Gooch Vs Gordon Greenidge

[Johan]

No they are definitely close. I favor Greenidge based on better peer rating and credit for being generally a bit more aggressive in a tough era.

Meh, I'd go Gooch, he was ridiculously consistent against top class pace bowling, solved the original WI quaret in their own backyard, solved Hadlee, solved Prime Ambrose in 91 series, solved Van Der Bijl and Garth Le Roux on their spicy home wickets and then solved Prime Waqar/Wasim in pace friendly conditions. Averages 76 for Essex vs Windies in tour games. also made 700 runs in 6 games against Warne in 1993, a very impressive armoury against Elite bowling.

 

[subshakerz]

Meh, I'd go Gooch, he was ridiculously consistent against top class pace bowling, solved the original WI quaret in their own backyard, solved Hadlee, solved Prime Ambrose in 91 series, solved Van Der Bijl and Garth Le Roux on their spicy home wickets and then solved Prime Waqar/Wasim in pace friendly conditions. Averages 76 for Essex vs Windies in tour games. also made 700 runs in 6 games against Warne in 1993, a very impressive armoury against Elite bowling.

You are the guy who puts Ashes as a big thing and Gooch largely underperformed there.

 

[Johan]

You are the guy who puts Ashes as a big thing and Gooch largely underperformed there.

I mostly mention it when English and Australian players are compared to each other or within each other, and almost always as a tiebreaker.

 

[Coronis]

Greenidge starting to get underrated around here.

There are a couple of very vocal Gooch simps here. For me with post-Hutton openers, its Sunny, Boycott, The 00’s Trio + Greenidge, Cook (unless its a Cook hating day), Others

Simpson’s a little harder because not his full career was opening but I’d probably lump him in that tier with Greenidge and the other guys. Rankings on those 4 are always subject to change, though generally its Smith at the top.

 

[Johan]

There are a couple of very vocal Gooch simps here. For me with post-Hutton openers, its Sunny, Boycott, The 00’s Trio + Greenidge, Cook (unless its a Cook hating day), Others

You literally rate Alastair Cook, you can't speak on English openers, I'm taking your Sutcliffe fan card, You massive Alastair Cook simp.

 

[Northerner]

This is very very close imo. Greenidge slightly edges it,

 

[subshakerz]

You literally rate Alastair Cook, you can't speak on English openers, I'm taking your Sutcliffe fan card, You massive Alastair Cook simp.

Do you rate Boycott ahead of Gooch?

 

[Johan]

Do you rate Boycott ahead of Gooch?

I have Boycott in middle of Gooch/Greenidge and Gavaskar tier.

 

[subshakerz]

I have Boycott in middle of Gooch/Greenidge and Gavaskar tier.

So Gooch is ahead?

 

[Johan]

So Gooch is ahead?

Nah I meant Gavaskar > Boycott > Gooch/Greenidge > 2000s openers.

still trying to figure out where Lawry and Simpson fall.

 

[subshakerz]

Nah I meant Gavaskar > Boycott > Gooch/Greenidge > 2000s openers.

still trying to figure out where Lawry and Simpson fall.

Ok

 

[Coronis]

You literally rate Alastair Cook, you can't speak on English openers, I'm taking your Sutcliffe fan card, You massive Alastair Cook simp.

Touch it and you die.

 

[shortpitched713]

Greenidge pretty comfortably.

 

[BazBall21]

No they are definitely close. I favor Greenidge based on better peer rating and credit for being generally a bit more aggressive in a tough era.

Their strike rate is the same

 

[subshakerz]

Their strike rate is the same

It's hard to tell because much of his prime his SR wasn't recorded

 

[ma1978]

I don;t think anyone in the world during their careers would have considered them peers. I agree though that Gooch looks better in retrospect.

Greenidge in general highly underrated on the forum because his end of career decline was so bad so all people see is the raw averages.

 

[kyear2]

Almost opposite careers.

Greenidge was ATG level for much of his career and comparable to Sunny before a disastrous fall off.

Gooch was mediocre for most of his career and then had one of the greatest purple patches in cricket history at the end

That said, raw averages don’t tell the whole story. Greenidge was great for much longer and stylistically it’s not close.

There's literally nothing to add to this.

Accurate summary, and Sir Cuthbert easily for me here.

 

[kyear2]

c'mon brother he was not comparable to Sunny

During parts of his career, yes he was. He struggled vs Lillee and Thompson early on, but there after they were comparable and rated accordingly, before the drop off to appropriately below him at the end.

 

[kyear2]

Meh, I'd go Gooch, he was ridiculously consistent against top class pace bowling, solved the original WI quaret in their own backyard, solved Hadlee, solved Prime Ambrose in 91 series, solved Van Der Bijl and Garth Le Roux on their spicy home wickets and then solved Prime Waqar/Wasim in pace friendly conditions. Averages 76 for Essex vs Windies in tour games. also made 700 runs in 6 games against Warne in 1993, a very impressive armoury against Elite bowling.

And a legitimate great batsman

 

[BazBall21]

It's hard to tell because much of his prime his SR wasn't recorded

According to this it is

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...YQFnoECCEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0Z-2A9iY-s0W3Oyy91ucIJ

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