Gordon Greenidge VS Rohit Sharma

[Cricket Bliss]

Better ODI Batsmen

 

[DrWolverine]

ODIs have changed so much that it is impossible to compare cricketers who played in 1980s to ones playing today.

 

[DrWolverine]

How much of it is true? I read that even ABD wasn’t really that special before the change of ODI rules.



Debut - October 2011:



After October 2011(2 new balls, fielding restrictions, power play etc) till his retirement

 

[sayon basak]

ODIs have changed so much that it is impossible to compare cricketers who played in 1980s to ones playing today.

Don't you think you've posted this exact same thing way too many times?

 

[Thala_0710]

Rohit

 

[Johan]

I was gonna kill this a terrible comparison but realised I just made Tom Richardson vs Stuart Broad so can't really complain.

 

[Cricket Bliss]

How much of it is true? I read that even ABD wasn’t really that special before the change of ODI rules.



Debut - October 2011:

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After October 2011(2 new balls, fielding restrictions, power play etc) till his retirement

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Significant change in averages.

 

[DrWolverine]

Significant change in averages.

I came across in another forum sometime back but someone put up the numbers on social media so I was wondering how much of it is true.

BTW Sanath Jayasuriya and especially Virender Sehwag are on a whole different level in terms of strike rate.

 

[Thala_0710]

I came across in another forum sometime back but someone put up the numbers on social media so I was wondering how much of it is true.

BTW Sanath Jayasuriya and especially Virender Sehwag are on a whole different level in terms of strike rate.

Both underrated odi batsmen imo

 

[MasterBlaster24]

How much of it is true? I read that even ABD wasn’t really that special before the change of ODI rules.



Debut - October 2011:

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After October 2011(2 new balls, fielding restrictions, power play etc) till his retirement

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You’re completely wrong here, imo. ABD, until the change to two new balls, was still an ODI great. If you look at a decent sample size like a minimum of 2,500 runs, you could find only 4 or 5 batters who had a batting average of 45 or more and a batting strike rate of 85 or more, with ABD being one of them. And I don’t think the start of the two new balls era is the best way to define eras in ODI cricket like you’ve done here. ODI cricket in the mid-2000s became a completely batter-dominant game due to flat pitches and the start of the new T20 format, which gave batters more freedom to go hard. Like the famous 436 game between South Africa and Australia happened after that.

Coming into the main thing — the Greenidge vs Rohit comparison — Rohit is an ATG ODI batsman. I find this comparison a bit meh because I think there’s a significant gap between these two as ODI batters. No disrespect to Greenidge, but Rohit is a legit candidate for the top 10 ODI batters of all time. But if anyone wants, I can give an explanation for Greenidge’s low batting strike rate though. His strike rate was perfectly fine as an opener for his era because ODIs were played with red balls at that time, and the opener’s job was seeing off the new ball. To prove my point I 'll bring Gavaskar into the discussion. Gavaskar was a bit unnecessarily criticised for his slow batting in ODIs because of one innings he played (Gavaskar scored 36 not out off 170 fu**ing odd balls in the inaugural ODI World Cup — although I admit that innings was crap). He was also a fine ODI opener in his era. Kris Srikkanth was renowned as an aggressive opener in that era, and his strike rate was 71 in ODIs.

 

[Johan]

ODIs have changed so much that it is impossible to compare cricketers who played in 1980s to ones playing today.

more of a difference betwee 1990s/2000s ODI and today than there was a difference between 2000s ODI and 1980s ODI

 

[DrWolverine]

ABD, until the change to two new balls, was still an ODI great.

If you look at a decent sample size like a minimum of 2,500 runs, you could find only 4 or 5 batters who had a batting average of 45 or more and a batting strike rate of 85 or more, with ABD being one of them.

Obviously he was very good. But his numbers were on par with an aged Sachin, Yuvraj, Hussey, Watson. Great but nothing special.

It looks like he became a different beast and established himself as a legend in 2010s when one day batting became much much easier.

 

[DrWolverine]

Obviously I may be wrong but ever since I read the post and after seeing the post, I am having some doubts. I would love to hear some more opinions.

 

[sayon basak]

Obviously I may be wrong but ever since I read the post and after seeing the post, I am having some doubts. I would love to hear some more opinions.

It's ODI's so who cares?

 

[ankitj]

Greenidge to show respect. He was very very good in ODIs