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could the canberra comets play in the NZ domestic competition
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Flem274*
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Won't happen. Why would we want to make Australia better when they won't let us in their domestic comp?
TheLad
School Boy/Girl Captain
Only if you want Comets players available for NZ selection. NZ cricket would gain nothing from such an exercise and would have no interest.
Right at the moment if it were to happen I reckon there is a good enough squad with enough depth (just finished 2nd at under 19 nationals 
) to be competitive.
However as has been said it just isnt feasible and would never happen.
One of the reasons Australian cricket is in such good shape is the strength of our domestic competition, because of the fact there are only 6 teams then players really have to fight tooth and nail and work extremely hard on their games for the right to play first class cricket. By the time they are established at FC level and performing consistently they are all but ready for test cricket.
Compare that with other countries who have more than twice as many FC teams, diluting the competiton and allowing more mediocre cricketers into the domestic competition, widening the gap between test and FC cricket. Plus meaning the real young talents dont have to work as hard or be as determined to get a place thus they dont develope as well.
If you look at our case in isolation ACT cricket does deserve a FC team, the Comets have been inconsistent in CA cup going from excellent one year to woeful the next, however that can mainly be put down to the loss of our best players to other states. And our junior teams have been really good, consistently punching above their weight and showing we have a good young talent base.
However I dont think its in the best interests of Australian cricket to introduce another domestic team right now.
) to be competitive.However as has been said it just isnt feasible and would never happen.
One of the reasons Australian cricket is in such good shape is the strength of our domestic competition, because of the fact there are only 6 teams then players really have to fight tooth and nail and work extremely hard on their games for the right to play first class cricket. By the time they are established at FC level and performing consistently they are all but ready for test cricket.
Compare that with other countries who have more than twice as many FC teams, diluting the competiton and allowing more mediocre cricketers into the domestic competition, widening the gap between test and FC cricket. Plus meaning the real young talents dont have to work as hard or be as determined to get a place thus they dont develope as well.
If you look at our case in isolation ACT cricket does deserve a FC team, the Comets have been inconsistent in CA cup going from excellent one year to woeful the next, however that can mainly be put down to the loss of our best players to other states. And our junior teams have been really good, consistently punching above their weight and showing we have a good young talent base.
However I dont think its in the best interests of Australian cricket to introduce another domestic team right now.
Perm
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I wouldn't have any problem with them playing in our domestic competition, provided that they found themselves a headquarters in New Zealand and based themselves there for the few months that domestic cricket was being played. If they had some good players then it would raise the standard of our game, and allow our young players the chance to play against quality opposition.
Matt52
U19 Vice-Captain
I dont think its such a bad idea.It depends on the quality of the side obviously, but assuming the side is of a high enough quality, it would be worth thinking about.
The thing with NZ cricket is that we have some basic problems running through the game in NZ. One of them is the short season we have. The weather is pretty good after christmas but beforehand its terrible, Lots of early season rain. This could give us the opportunity to send sides over earlier in the season to Aus and play on harder pitches and better weather.
NZ first class teams are scheduled to play 8 four day first class games a year plus the top two play a final. 10 one day games and a semi and final, thats not a lot of cricket. Perhaps this is an opportunity to get a home away from home where NZ cricket could hold a one day tournament in October in Canberra in October to start the season, thus giving more time to play 4 dayers later when the weather is better over here.
Another benefit for NZ cricket is the exposure of our players to different pitches and conditions. We always complain about the pitches in NZ that favour the bowler too much. Yet here we could have Auck v CD on an Aussie pitch. for a decent amount of time.
If an NZA side joins the Pura cup, it would weaken NZ cricket a lot, perhaps an NZ side can enter the Aussie comp and Canberra can join our comp to make up for the players we dont have playing in our comp now..
There was a suggestion before about reducing the amount of NZ teams , if an NZA side got into the Aussie comp, That would be a chance to reduce the NZ teams to 5 to make them stronger, Cutting out the fat, getting rid of the journeymen,. Let in Canberra to make up a 6 team comp.
It could also be a bargaining chip for NZ cricket, If the Aussies want CAnberra in a comp then we could offer that to help us get a side into The Pura cup.
This all depends on the quality of the side though, but I can see how it could benefit NZcricket.
The thing with NZ cricket is that we have some basic problems running through the game in NZ. One of them is the short season we have. The weather is pretty good after christmas but beforehand its terrible, Lots of early season rain. This could give us the opportunity to send sides over earlier in the season to Aus and play on harder pitches and better weather.
NZ first class teams are scheduled to play 8 four day first class games a year plus the top two play a final. 10 one day games and a semi and final, thats not a lot of cricket. Perhaps this is an opportunity to get a home away from home where NZ cricket could hold a one day tournament in October in Canberra in October to start the season, thus giving more time to play 4 dayers later when the weather is better over here.
Another benefit for NZ cricket is the exposure of our players to different pitches and conditions. We always complain about the pitches in NZ that favour the bowler too much. Yet here we could have Auck v CD on an Aussie pitch. for a decent amount of time.
If an NZA side joins the Pura cup, it would weaken NZ cricket a lot, perhaps an NZ side can enter the Aussie comp and Canberra can join our comp to make up for the players we dont have playing in our comp now..
There was a suggestion before about reducing the amount of NZ teams , if an NZA side got into the Aussie comp, That would be a chance to reduce the NZ teams to 5 to make them stronger, Cutting out the fat, getting rid of the journeymen,. Let in Canberra to make up a 6 team comp.
It could also be a bargaining chip for NZ cricket, If the Aussies want CAnberra in a comp then we could offer that to help us get a side into The Pura cup.
This all depends on the quality of the side though, but I can see how it could benefit NZcricket.
Hoggy31
International Captain
All for an AUS-NZ comp, have the Aussie 6 now and 3 from NZ (byes would ease the travel load on teams). The NZ 3 would probably be Auckland, Wellington and a team from the South Island (Dunedin?). That gives NZ a pool of at least 33 guys who are playing regular, competitive cricket.
Its a surprise more aussies don't play in new zealand the last i remember was robert smith from NSW,a leggie.
I think you would have to basically set up a canberra side in NZ.
I( think it would be competitive,you never know they could get some pro players and it could be quite strong.
Last positive thing heard about canberra comets was it could be part of the 20/20 comp,but that fell through.
I think you would have to basically set up a canberra side in NZ.
I( think it would be competitive,you never know they could get some pro players and it could be quite strong.
Last positive thing heard about canberra comets was it could be part of the 20/20 comp,but that fell through.
What about a first class tour by canberra they could play all the state teams,in response up and coming kiwi players could play the 2nd xl state competition,sherlock is their at the mo.Jamie how and ross taylor have played for the canberra comets oh and englishman paul horton.
I would only take 1 kiwi side into the pura cup and ford ranger,2 too many,make it a NZ A side.
I would only take 1 kiwi side into the pura cup and ford ranger,2 too many,make it a NZ A side.
Well river end,what to do with the comets how are they gonna develop and get better without competition,this also gives incentive for
1 players to stay with the canberra comets
2 for players to come to the canberra comets and stay and not go back to their state after 1 season.
3 Jelps develop them into a first class side which can one day come back into aussie first class cricket.
At the moment the comets are on a hiding to nowhere,getting thrashed at 2nd xl level and losing key players interstate to other states,namely tasmania at this stage.
1 players to stay with the canberra comets
2 for players to come to the canberra comets and stay and not go back to their state after 1 season.
3 Jelps develop them into a first class side which can one day come back into aussie first class cricket.
At the moment the comets are on a hiding to nowhere,getting thrashed at 2nd xl level and losing key players interstate to other states,namely tasmania at this stage.
TheLad
School Boy/Girl Captain
What you need is an ACB that is serious about including the comets in the Pura Cup. until that happens the comets are on a hiding to nothing. We already saw what including them in the one day comp only achieved. Players who looked half reasonable left quick smart so as to be possible with other states.
But until a serious motion is put in place to include them in the Pura Cup and the Ford Ranger cup nothing is going to change.
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With a bit of ingenuity CA can do something with canberra,otherwise they are going nowehere,their form is so shabby they might get cut from the 2nd xl competition,and just become another region of NSW,they are already playing the state cup anyway.
Hard for canberra even to be a 2nd xl option at the moment,they lose too many players as it is,3 of the comets players are now based in sydney and sherlock is a kiwi player,see swards moving back to tassie after this season too.
Cricket australia doesn't know how to handle the comets.
But no they won't be taken back into the competition,the other states are against it.
NZ seems their best option at the moment,anyway we could use it as a feeder club to promote some promising juniors.
Hard for canberra even to be a 2nd xl option at the moment,they lose too many players as it is,3 of the comets players are now based in sydney and sherlock is a kiwi player,see swards moving back to tassie after this season too.
Cricket australia doesn't know how to handle the comets.
But no they won't be taken back into the competition,the other states are against it.
NZ seems their best option at the moment,anyway we could use it as a feeder club to promote some promising juniors.
Craig
World Traveller
WTF?
There are 19 New Zealanders in the New Zealand Warriors 2008 squad and six Australians. They also finished 4th in the ladder for the 2007season as well. As for the A - League, they are 6th, ahead of last season's premiers Melbourne Victory (on goal difference) and Perth Glory.
Stop talking out of your arse.
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