shortpitched713
Cricketer Of The Year
TIL Bradman batting at 9, 10 or 11 would have been considered a really **** batsman.
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Batting Average vs Batting RPI
- Thread starter PlayerComparisons
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Whatever it is.
Cricket is a not a 1 to 1 individually game, it is a team game and if a team gets beaten, every player gets beaten too.
As far as specifically Jadeja’s case is concerned, he didn’t showed enough intent anyways. Did he achieved anything by staying not out? Answer is No.
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
Exactly, cricket ain't no individuals game and all you can do alone is jerk **** in the middle of the crease. Not accounting for it, not accepting it; but pretending otherwise is hilariously out of bounds.
Especially in Jadeja's case, dude took us so close from a no hoper, batting with Burmah and Siraj himself. But nope, now he should had bazballed his way......
Who stopped him to show any intent vs spinners on a surface that has gotten flat and ball was soft? What does he think, taking singles every over will take his team to win or expecting Bumrah and Siraj to survive 100 balls for him to win the game?
Look, I am not blaming Jadeja for the loss but singing praises of his knock as if he played an ATG knock is not cut off. One has to put innings in the right context — it was a gritty effort, yes, but match awareness and situational intent matter equally. Great knocks are remembered not just for survival, but for seizing moments and shifting the game like Stokes did in Headingley. Yes, that style of play doesn’t guarantee win but staying not out and just hanging in isn’t cut off for someone who is known for his batting ability.
capt_Luffy
Hall of Fame Member
You know the best part? He ****ing almost did. Had he switched gears all of sudden you lot with be shouting "the ****er don't know how to play with the tail. Should have taken the game at its pace. What a horrible way to get out!!" Similarly, had the umpire gave Stokes rightfully the kick when 2 runs were needed, or even Aussies had another review, everyone will be shitting on his choice of short there. Jadeja took the game that was looking defeat by a 100, to a place we were dreaming of winning. It took a freak out to stop that. That knock is ATG in my book.
@capt_Luffy ,
The argument is simple. What matter more - batting average or runs per inning?
In context of Jadeja’s knock in Lords, he ended up with 60 not out in a run chase of 190 odd. How should we evaluate Jadeja’s contribution here - 60 runs in this inning or 60 runs being not out?
I reckon a more fair number would be 60 runs in this inning because his team lost the game. Some other player might have tried to up the ante and lose its wickets and result would have still been same. In context of result, Jadeja just got benefitted by scoring 60 runs and staying not out but that didn’t helped his team win because he didn’t showed enough intent. End result - Lost by 20+ runs.
The argument is simple. What matter more - batting average or runs per inning?
In context of Jadeja’s knock in Lords, he ended up with 60 not out in a run chase of 190 odd. How should we evaluate Jadeja’s contribution here - 60 runs in this inning or 60 runs being not out?
I reckon a more fair number would be 60 runs in this inning because his team lost the game. Some other player might have tried to up the ante and lose its wickets and result would have still been same. In context of result, Jadeja just got benefitted by scoring 60 runs and staying not out but that didn’t helped his team win because he didn’t showed enough intent. End result - Lost by 20+ runs.
The game was already lost when Reddy got out and Jadeja was left with two tailenders and 80+ runs to win. The blame doesn’t lie on Jadeja, Bumrah and Siraj now.
But my point of his inning of not out is in context of this thread where his batting average got inflated with that not out and it didn’t helped team win the game either.
As far as Stokes knock is concerned, yes he did got a life. But there are many great knocks where players get life. Do we go by actual result of the game or make of case of what if this didn’t happened then the possible outcome? I think the final result is what matters and that is what people will remember. As an example, We all have come to terms that the 2019 WC winner was England, what happened in that game is surely worth discussing and talking all your life but end result is what matters.