Barry Richards and Dennis Lillee vs Sunil Gavaskar and Fred Trueman

[DrWolverine]

It’s simple.

9 out of 10 pages in this thread can be divided into two groups - Is it okay to win a match using intimidating bowling tactics and also injuring batsmen?

 

[Xix2565]

I mean I can accept that there's a chance of getting hurt, but I don't get the glorification of hitting someone. Still waiting for people to come out and say they want more concussions and dead bodies though. It's okay to admit you guys enjoy violence a bit too much.

 

[Johan]

demonizing your opposition isn't mature and not a tactic that should be used on a silly sports forum, don't do it.

 

[Xix2565]

Shouldn't I? It's not like people haven't made up extreme strawmen to try and bludgeon their point home before.

 

[Johan]

Are you talking about yourself?

 

[Xix2565]

I don't see the point in skipping over the pace nonsense you've been posting about recently. If we do that then there are bigger concerns about general brain functions then who's right about how cricket evolved over time or how much bloodlust fans should have over fast bowling.

 

[Johan]

Aw, are you hurt that I said Dennis Lillee is the same speed as 40+ James Anderson? Welp, that's none of my concern, try living in reality.

 

[Xix2565]

No one's hurt by what you're saying lol, unless this is just projection.

 

[Johan]

You're going off topic over it so I'm assuming you're clearly effected by it.

 

[MasterBlaster24]

If the crowd is shouting “Kill Kill”, “Knock his head out Mike” and encouraging bowlers to injure the batsmen, they truly belong in the jungles.

Don't know the exact reason why windies fans didn't like the Indian team, but maybe this had something to do with it.

"But they didn't endear themselves to our spectators because if things were going against them they would drop to 14 overs per hour - Bedi sometimes took six minutes to bowl an over!"
(Roy Fredericks)

 

[sayon basak]

Don't know the exact reason why windies fans didn't like the Indian team, but maybe this had something to do with it.

"But they didn't endear themselves to our spectators because if things were going against them they would drop to 14 overs per hour - Bedi sometimes took six minutes to bowl an over!"
(Roy Fredericks)

He should've learned from Jadeja.

 

[subshakerz]

It’s simple.

9 out of 10 pages in this thread can be divided into two groups - Is it okay to win a match using intimidating bowling tactics and also injuring batsmen?

It's ok to intimidate but not to intentionally injure.

 

[sayon basak]

It's ok to intimidate but not to intentionally injure.

It's never clear whether one bowler is intimidating the batter or trying to injure the batter. One could argue that there is no distinction at all.

And again, beamer is not acceptable at all, doesn't matter whether it injures the batter or not. If anybody unintentionally bowls the beamer, he should immediately apologize to the batsman.

 

[shortpitched713]

It’s simple.

9 out of 10 pages in this thread can be divided into two groups - Is it okay to win a match using intimidating bowling tactics and also injuring batsmen?

That has always been a part of cricket. The answer for most people is going to be yes, because it is part of the cricket that we always knew.

 

[DrWolverine]

It's ok to intimidate but not to intentionally injure.

True

It's never clear whether one bowler is intimidating the batter or trying to injure the batter. One could argue that there is no distinction at all.

And again, beamer is not acceptable at all, doesn't matter whether it injures the batter or not. If anybody unintentionally bowls the beamer, he should immediately apologize to the batsman.

In this case signs are a little too obvious

1. WI lost the previous series 1-5

2. India chased down a record 404 runs and tied the series 1-1

3. Lloyd’s job is on the line. He decides to drop the spinners and picks 4 pacers

4. The pacers Wayne Daniel & Michael Holding are bowling 3-4 bouncers a over

5. Michael Holding bowled beamers and goes on to give an excuse the ball slipped.

6. Five Indian players are retired hurt. One is hit on the head and other has a finger broken.

When have we ever seen a match with 5 players getting injured by fast bowling?

 

[DrWolverine]

Nothing wrong in bowling fast and intimidating the batsmen but intention to hurt should not be encouraged.

 

[DrWolverine]

That has always been a part of cricket. The answer for most people is going to be yes, because it is part of the cricket that we always knew.

There is always a line in cricket, at least according to me. It’s okay to intimidate but not injure.

I remember being the only one among my friends who said Allan Donald did nothing wrong when sledged and bowled few bouncers to Rahul Dravid.

 

[Johan]

Don't know the exact reason why windies fans didn't like the Indian team, but maybe this had something to do with it.

"But they didn't endear themselves to our spectators because if things were going against them they would drop to 14 overs per hour - Bedi sometimes took six minutes to bowl an over!"
(Roy Fredericks)

bruh lmao

 

[kyear2]

True



In this case signs are a little too obvious

1. WI lost the previous series 1-5

2. India chased down a record 404 runs and tied the series 1-1

3. Lloyd’s job is on the line. He decides to drop the spinners and picks 4 pacers

4. The pacers Wayne Daniel & Michael Holding are bowling 3-4 bouncers a over

5. Michael Holding bowled beamers and goes on to give an excuse the ball slipped.

6. Five Indian players are retired hurt. One is hit on the head and other has a finger broken.

When have we ever seen a match with 5 players getting injured by fast bowling?

Signs of what though? It seems they were trying to win.

What does losing the previous series have anything to do with presenting proof that you're trying to injure the members of the best team? Nor the same team that beat you, but the next one.

Yes, they chased down a total, signs that a chance in tactics was necessary, less spin, more pace.

I'm still wondering what any of this has anything to do with wanting to hurt someone. His job was on the line, you fix that by winning, not by hitting people.

The fact that you believe bowling 3 overs a match when you have overmatched opponents is something unique. When a team shows a striking weakness, you exploit it.

He didn't bowl nearly the amount of beamers that you think he did.

The last two points I can answer with one statement. Skill issue. They weren't made accustomed to real cricket pitches. The goal isn't to feel sorry for your opponents.

Oh, and at least two had finger injuries collected in the field.

 

[kyear2]

Nothing wrong in bowling fast and intimidating the batsmen but intention to hurt should not be encouraged.

There was no intent to hurt, they got hurt because they weren't capable enough.