Bangladeshi First Class Averages

[Hero_Don]

Why are they all so mediocore? The mediocore batsmen, play against mediocore bowlers, so that would cancel each other out and have average averages? Right?

 

[andyc]

Meh who cares. They still beat Sri Lanka (and us).

 

[Jono]

Probably outweighed by the test class bowlers they face which goes to their first class records?

Anyway go Bangladesh

 

[Loony BoB]

Quite possibly the following could influence things...

1) They may be heavily influenced by tests, which are included in FC statistics.
2) The older players in the Bangladeshi leagues may have the better averages, but are not selected because Bangladesh are trying to build on a young team rather than an old one.
3) Again regarding youth, they may have played very few FC games but have just shown talent and potential, and are being selected before they have a chance to gain a lot of experience in their domestic league.
4) They might have a lot of all rounders and not many pure batsmen / pure bowlers playing in their leagues.

 

[open365]

Crickt doesn't work like that.

Being a lower class batsman genraly means that you won't have the appetitie and application for big scores,no matter who you are batting against.

 

[Loony BoB]

Just another thought, it's also possible that there are a fair amount of runouts.

 

[Hero_Don]

Crickt doesn't work like that.

Being a lower class batsman genraly means that you won't have the appetitie and application for big scores,no matter who you are batting against.

But common sense works like this.

You perform better against less talented opposition.

 

[James90]

Quite possibly the following could influence things...
2) The older players in the Bangladeshi leagues may have the better averages, but are not selected because Bangladesh are trying to build on a young team rather than an old one.
3) Again regarding youth, they may have played very few FC games but have just shown talent and potential, and are being selected before they have a chance to gain a lot of experience in their domestic league.

You'll find that a lot of the youth thrown into the Bangladesh national team didn't impress in the domestic comp but in winning performances for the u-19's. They rate those performances very highly yet don't count towards the First Class stats.

 

[open365]

But common sense works like this.

You perform better against less talented opposition.

But they are't less talented opposition if your also less talented.

As you go further down the cricketing talent tree,the scores get lower and lower.

It takes talent and a massive amount of ability to consistenly score big,no ,matter who you play against,and i'm guessing that Bangladeshi FC batsmen don't have that talent/ability.

It's the way cricket works.

 

[steds]

But common sense works like this.

You perform better against less talented opposition.

No. Common sense suggests you should, if you perform to your capabilities, get better results against less talented opposition than against better opposition.
How you personally perform has absolutely nothing to do with the opposition.

 

[Barney Rubble]

But they are't less talented opposition if your also less talented.

As you go further down the cricketing talent tree,the scores get lower and lower.

It takes talent and a massive amount of ability to consistenly score big,no ,matter who you play against,and i'm guessing that Bangladeshi FC batsmen don't have that talent/ability.

It's the way cricket works.

Exactly right. That's how it occurred that I batted number 1 and captained my school 3rd XI last year, despite having a career average of approximately 17.

 

[TIF]

Meh who cares. They still beat Sri Lanka (and us).

And they beat India as well in 2004 and Pakistan in 1999 and have won 1 match against Zimbabwe by 8 runs before Streak and co. went on a strike. That, happened to be their 1st ever ODI win after the historic win against Pakistan in 1999.

And, they do have a lot of good youngsters coming through.

 

[sirjeremy11]

What are their picthes like? Low quality?

Our first class stats are remarkably imbalanced in NZ as well. Astle type bowlers topping the averages. Most batsman averaging late 20's etc

 

[tooextracool]

one would think that the reason behind that is that the batting performances are well split but extremely inconsistent. so a possible scenario is that a different batsman scores runs in every game.

 

[open365]

one would think that the reason behind that is that the batting performances are well split but extremely inconsistent. so a possible scenario is that a different batsman scores runs in ever game.

?

 

[Magrat Garlick]

But common sense works like this.

You perform better against less talented opposition.

Not when you're not talented yourself.

There's one exception, though:

Golam Rahman (17 matches, 1382 runs @ 51.18)

 

[tooextracool]

?

take this example. in 5 games, 5 different batsmen score 100s in each of them, but every player fails miserably in their other innings. that would result in an average of 25ish, but it might also mean that the bowlers have been taken to the cleaners.

 

[Richard]

You'll find that a lot of the youth thrown into the Bangladesh national team didn't impress in the domestic comp but in winning performances for the u-19's. They rate those performances very highly yet don't count towards the First Class stats.

Well neither are likely to be that meaningful.

 

[Prince EWS]

Crickt doesn't work like that.

Being a lower class batsman genraly means that you won't have the appetitie and application for big scores,no matter who you are batting against.

But then the bowlers should have splendid averages, which they dont.

 

[Jungle Jumbo]

Not when you're not talented yourself.

There's one exception, though:

Golam Rahman (17 matches, 1382 runs @ 51.18)

Golam's been all over the shop this year, had a superb season last year though.

Answering the main question (I think most points have been raised already):

- The international players do not play much FC cricket in Bangladesh, most of their FC experience is in tour games/Tests/representative cricket
So they come across better bowlers more often than the lesser players who only play domestic cricket.

- Many players are fast-tracked though the junior/'A' team/development squad system.
So most of their averages are made up of representative and tour games. Players like Shahriar Nafees, Mushfiqur Rahim had no domestic experience.

- Pitches in Bangladesh are very poor
So those who do play domestic cricket will have lower scores as a result of playing on tough wickets.

- The standard of cricket is still quite low...
... but improving. As already said, the lower the standard, the lower the scores. In a 50-overs NCL game, a par score is just over 200. Anything over 250 is regarded as huge.

But when the internationals aren't there, the batsmen rule...
Nazmus Sadat, Saghir Hossain crash tons, Faisal Hossain unbeaten on 176

Current NCL averages
Javed hit both of those hundreds in the same game.