Aubrey Faulkner vs Shaun Pollock (Tests)

[shortpitched713]

Pollock was the more reliable bowler, Faulkner the more reliable bat. Which is a greater all-rounder?

 

[kyear2]

Never been the biggest Pollock fan, but Faulkner goes back a little too early for me to rate...

So Pollock I guess.

 

[ma1978]

Pollock.

what’s the next comparison - Malcolm Marshall vs a Brontosaurus

 

[Coronis]

Pollock.

what’s the next comparison - Malcolm Marshall vs a Brontosaurus

Brontosaurus

 

[ma1978]

Obviously Faulkner was an extraordinary cricketer, but premodern. I think Bradman brought about cricket modernity and the 1970s Aus and WI teams brought cricket professionalism

 

[capt_Luffy]

Brontosaurus

I mean, what's Marshy gonna do? Throw balls at them?

 

[Coronis]

I mean, what's Marshy gonna do? Throw balls at them?

Bowl more likely. Probably swing a few away from ‘em and Bronty won’t even notice

 

[subshakerz]

Pollock. Forget these old timers.

 

[Johan]

Faulkner.

 

[DrWolverine]

Shaun Pollock.

 

[sayon basak]

Forget these old timers.

Why?

 

[subshakerz]

Why?

So hard to assess.

 

[sayon basak]

So hard to assess.

So, we all should forget about those players, because you find them hard to assess?

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

Obviously Faulkner was an extraordinary cricketer, but premodern. I think Bradman brought about cricket modernity and the 1970s Aus and WI teams brought cricket professionalism

Just because India and Pakistan didn’t play cricket, it’s not the same for Australia. There were just as many great cricketers that represented Australia pre-1970s compared to so called modern era when India, Pakistan etc. started to be any relevant.

The 70s Aus would get crushed by 48 Invincibles and probably would lose to Australia 1921.

 

[subshakerz]

So, we all should forget about those players, because you find them hard to assess?

No. I was just joking.

 

[ma1978]

Just because India and Pakistan didn’t play cricket, it’s not the same for Australia. There were just as many great cricketers that represented Australia pre-1970s compared to so called modern era when India, Pakistan etc. started to be any relevant.

The 70s Aus would get crushed by 48 Invincibles and probably would lose to Australia 1921.

not true on the latter point.

taking Australia alone, obviously a player that can prevail across many conditions in a professional era is better than one who only really has to play against England in an amateur era.

thats why Warne is incomparably better than O’Reilly, Mcgrath incomparably better than Lindwall or Davidson, Ponting incomparably better than Harvey. Only Bradman stands alone as different.

You may have your black and white heroes but that’s all that is, nostalgic hero worship.

 

[Johan]

not true on the latter point.

taking Australia alone, obviously a player that can prevail across many conditions in a professional era is better than one who only really has to play against England in an amateur era.

This is exactly why Smith and Root are a level above Tendulkar and Lara, played in a more competitive and more professional era while the latter two played with plumbers and farmers.

 

[ma1978]

This is exactly why Smith and Root are a level above Tendulkar and Lara, played in a more competitive and more professional era while the latter two played with plumbers and farmers.

except none of this is true.

 

[ma1978]

This is exactly why Smith and Root are a level above Tendulkar and Lara, played in a more competitive and more professional era while the latter two played with plumbers and farmers.

you lot may like your cricket when it was only played amongst a small group of imperial white teams, but it’s rightly seen as a lesser product

 

[sayon basak]

you lot may like your cricket when it was only played amongst a small group of imperial white teams, but it’s rightly seen as a lesser product

Your methodology excludes earlier parts of Indian cricket too. Looking at it from a racial lens doesn't work imo.

And most of those who look at it as a lesser product probably regards test as the lesser format as a whole.