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All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

ataraxia

ataraxia

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trundler said:
Cameron never even scored a test ton. His entire reputation is based on one over. Imtiaz Ahmed was the first wicket keeper to score a double century in tests.
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Scoring 200 on a flat turf wicket at home against the might of Johnny Hayes and Harry Cave? What an effort. You could base a reputation on that.
 
trundler

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ataraxia said:
Scoring 200 on a flat turf wicket at home against the might of Johnny Hayes and Harry Cave? What an effort. You could base a reputation on that.
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No wicket keeper managed even that before him and none did it for 25 more years. He also scored 2 other centuries against Cameron's 0.
 
kyear2

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Line and Length said:
It would appear that highly rated glovemen like Tallon, Evans, Oldfield et al aren't ranked as highly on CW. A greater emphasis is being put on keeper/batsmen ... with the batsman aspect the major factor.
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The entire keeping selections have been downright awful tbh. Evans and Cameron just fighting for selection is ridiculous
 
Coronis

Coronis

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I personally would say Saeed Anwar being the 29th opener selected is far more egregious than many of the other selections. Unsure why he’s being so underrated.
 
morgieb

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Coronis said:
I personally would say Saeed Anwar being the 29th opener selected is far more egregious than many of the other selections. Unsure why he’s being so underrated.
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Anwar's raw figures are really good but the problem is that he only played about six years. Fails the longetivity test compared to others ahead of him.
 
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Fuller Pilch

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capt_Luffy said:
Wasn't Taylor selected ahead of him in the NZ XI as well?
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Yeah. Taylor had the longer and obviously better career, but Donnelly was a top level bat.

A lot of people put the likes of Smith, Mitchell, and Kirsten ahead of Barry R on test career but consider Barry better than all 3.
 
Coronis

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ataraxia said:
Nah he's two tiers below Hanif. Classic case of a great ODI career being merged with a worse test one resulting in a seriously overrated player, much like Viv Richards or Dennis Lillee.
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You know I’m basically the opposite of someone who would let that affect me right?
 
kyear2

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ataraxia said:
Nah he's two tiers below Hanif. Classic case of a great ODI career being merged with a worse test one resulting in a seriously overrated player, much like Viv Richards or Dennis Lillee.
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I don't recall Lillee being an outstanding odi player and that was never the reason Lillee was highly rated. If there is such a player, it would be Wasim.

To think that's why Viv is highly rated as a test player also requires one to ignore a peak that, outside of Bradman is likely the greatest ever, and dominant performances and tours against some of the greatest bowlers of all time, often in their back yard.
 
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