All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

[Johan]

Sportskeeda (an Indian mag) has listed the following as India's ATG XI in England

Gavaskar
KL
Dravid
Sachin
Gill
Pant
Jadeja
Kapil
Bumrah
Siraj
Chandra

Kohli's Klown posse is going batshit crazy in their X mentions.

Illogical team.

 

[Thala_0710]

Zaheer over Siraj, Gill vs Ganguly is arguable

 

[Johan]

How does either Ganguly or Gill beat Vengsarkar for England.

 

[Thala_0710]

How does either Ganguly or Gill beat Vengsarkar for England.

Vengsarkar had 1 great series and was avg/decent in rest. Ganguly was great or very good each time

 

[Johan]

Vengsarkar had 1 great series and was avg/decent in rest. Ganguly was great or very good each time

Ganguly's tours featured some of the flattest pitches in history of English Cricket iirc.

 

[Thala_0710]

Ganguly's tours featured some of the flattest pitches in history of English Cricket iirc.

Only 2002

 

[Johan]

Only 2002

What is Ganguly's best knock in England in a low scoring game

 

[Thala_0710]

The 1990 tour for Vengsarkar was similar though

 

[Thala_0710]

What is Ganguly's best knock in England in a low scoring game

His debut ton wasn't in a low scoring game, but not a road either, and was very impressive. His 2007 Nottingham knock in the win was quite good too

 

[capt_Luffy]

Ganguly's tours featured some of the flattest pitches in history of English Cricket iirc.

He did but so did Gill, somehow more so. And Vengsarkar just had one Great Series.

 

[Johan]

Bowes better than both.

Insane FC stats and great bowler but was considered universally (and by himself) inferior to Larwood.

 

[Johan]

He did but so did Gill, somehow more so. And Vengsarkar just had one Great Series.

Gill shouldn't be in discussion, he failed completely in London which had two good pitches this series.

 

[Thala_0710]

Gill shouldn't be in discussion, he failed completely in London which had two good pitches this series.

I would go Ganguly > Vengsarkar > Gill

 

[capt_Luffy]

Imo:

Gavaskar
Mankad (yes, based on mostly that game. Not like we have many better openers anyways)
Dravid
Tendulkar
Ganguly*
Vengsarkar
Pant+
Zaheer
Bumrah
Siraj
Chandrashekhar

 

[Johan]

Root showed the difference in tiers in those two games.

 

[Thala_0710]

But more importantly, Zak > Siraj

 

[Thala_0710]

Imo:

Gavaskar
Mankad (yes, based on mostly that game. Not like we have many better openers anyways)
Dravid
Tendulkar
Ganguly*
Vengsarkar
Pant+
Zaheer
Bumrah
Siraj
Chandrashekhar

This is better

 

[Thala_0710]

Siraj vs Kapil is a good debate in Eng... But with that batting I'd go Siraj too

 

[Thala_0710]

Though the tail is pretty weak now

 

[capt_Luffy]

Siraj vs Kapil is a good debate in Eng... But with that batting I'd go Siraj too

Kapil has a MoTS and 3 MoTMs but like Jadeja, he almost turned into a batting all-rounder largely. Sure he had plenty of moments with the ball, some especially in very key games, even a couple good Series, but yeah.