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All-Time Ireland XIs - (Not) A re-run

HeathDavisSpeed

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
He could bat at 5/6 for me. Dockrell actually has decent FC experience and is Ireland's greatest spinner by far imo (influenced hy white ball too,but still). That's why I want him in the XI.
Nah. He’s far from Ireland’s best spinner and since they started playing Tests he was more of an all-rounder than spinner as - certainly compared to his ODI record. If you’re picking on Tests and Tests alone then other options are definitely legit.
 

Thala_0710

International Captain
Nah. He’s far from Ireland’s best spinner and since they started playing Tests he was more of an all-rounder than spinner as - certainly compared to his ODI record. If you’re picking on Tests and Tests alone then other options are definitely legit.
The test sample size is too small to make any reasonable judgement off of it. FC numbers and just generally watching them bowl have to be taken into account here.
 

Teuton

Cricketer Of The Year
McBrine is arguably Ireland's best performed player in Tests so I gotta vote for him to get into the team.
 

HeathDavisSpeed

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
The test sample size is too small to make any reasonable judgement off of it. FC numbers and just generally watching them bowl have to be taken into account here.
And by the time Dockrell got to play Tests, his bowling had regressed substantially. It's simply that Ireland haven't played enough Tests to have a variety to choose from that he's even in the discussion. McBrine has performed much better than Dockrell, has played more Tests and just is also a better batsman. He's better on all measures for Ireland's Test team and should be ahead of Dockrell.

ODIs would be a different story, perhaps.

McBrine.
 

Thala_0710

International Captain
And by the time Dockrell got to play Tests, his bowling had regressed substantially. It's simply that Ireland haven't played enough Tests to have a variety to choose from that he's even in the discussion. McBrine has performed much better than Dockrell, has played more Tests and just is also a better batsman. He's better on all measures for Ireland's Test team and should be ahead of Dockrell.

ODIs would be a different story, perhaps.

McBrine.
Yeah but the Dockrell pick isn't based on his performances in test cricket. It is based on the quality of spinner he was in his pomp. Ireland just got test status too late for him as you said. Basing this pick off his whole career because there aren't great alternatives.
Also I have McBrine in the all time Xi, in the AR slot. Just not in the spinner slot.
 

HeathDavisSpeed

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Well, I think you can have better seamers for Dockrell and then use McBrine in the all rounder slot. That’s going to serve this team better, I reckon.

Furthermore, if we’re counting non-test cricket, then Boucher and Monteith were better bowlers than Dockrell. His FC record is pretty poor - he’s never been a great red ball option.
 

capt_Luffy

Hall of Fame Member
Andy Balbirnie - 4
William Porterfield - 3
Peter Moor - 3

George Dockrell - 3
Andy McBrine - 3


Kevin O'Brien - 5
 
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capt_Luffy

Hall of Fame Member
Ireland XI
1.
2. A Balbirnie
3. EC Joyce
4. HT Tector
5. KJ O'Brien
6. LJ Tucker+
7.
8. MR Adair
9.
10. TJ Murtagh
11.
 
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capt_Luffy

Hall of Fame Member
Now please vote for:
A) One of Porterfield or Moor those who haven't, or those who voted for both. @Thala_0710
B) Another bowler
C) The last player to complete the team
D) The captain of Ireland XI
 

capt_Luffy

Hall of Fame Member
Barry McCarthy
Switching to Andy McBrine, as he should definitely make the team. The position can be verified later.
 
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capt_Luffy

Hall of Fame Member
Now please vote for:
A) One of Porterfield or Moor those who haven't, or those who voted for both. @Thala_0710
B) Another bowler
C) The last player to complete the team
D) The captain of Ireland XI
Okay, then vote for:
A) One of Porterfield or Moor, those who haven't or those who voted for both
B) One of McBrine or Dockrell, again those who haven't. In both cases changing vote is allowed.
C) One bowler

Will conduct another round of voting, Sorry for the confusion.
 

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