All Time England XI game

[Teuton]

Moeen
Yardley

 

[Flametree]

Yardley
Woakes

 

[Starfighter]

Jessop (I don't think we need two medium spinners but another pacer is handy)
Nichols

 

[jimmy101]

Figured Jessop had already been picked for some reason

 

[a massive zebra]

Gilbert Jessop
Stan Nichols

 

[NUFAN]

England O XI
1 Tim Robinson
2 Brian Luckhurst
3 Phil Sharpe
4 William Gunn
5 Allan Watkins
6 Gilbert Jessop
7 Norman Yardley
8 Gregor MacGregor+
9 Steven Finn
10 Bob Appleyard
11 Ian Peebles

So we just need an England O skipper and we are done.

 

[Starfighter]

Yardley

 

[NUFAN]

Finn stands out quite a bit in this team.

 

[a massive zebra]

Norman Yardley

 

[Teuton]

Yardley

there does seem to be a real reluctance to pick spinners:

Hollies
Tattersall
Panesar
Jack White
Moeen Ali
Geoff Miller
Edmonds
Tufnell
Emburey
Cook
Giles
Croft
Pocock

all had reasonable careers (not world beaters obviously), but unpicked.

my Eng P XI
Tavare
Watson
Ballance
Ramprakash
Crawley
Buttler
Ali
Bresnan
Malcolm
Mullally
Hollies

 

[jimmy101]

Another fun game. Incredible how many quality players there are leftover. Have to think that Warner & Attewell were unlucky, Jack White too.

Yardley for skip.

 

[the big bambino]

Farmer White a major omission imo.

 

[jimmy101]

Yet Dean Headley made it comfortably. Is there something I missed with him? As Nufan would say, I never got the memo that he was any good.

 

[the big bambino]

Actually I like Headley. Very talented but career curtailed by injuries and got the impression the selectors didn't rate him as they should have.

 

[Starfighter]

England XI 1. JB Hobbs 2. L Hutton * 3. WR Hammond 4. KF Barrington 5. DCS Compton 6. IT Botham 7. APE Knott + 8. H Larwood 9. JC Laker 10. FS Trueman 11. SF Barnes	England A XI 1. H Sutcliffe 2. G Boycott 3. KS Ranjitsinhji 4. PBH May 5. JE Root 6. WG Grace * 7. LEG Ames + 8. H Verity 9. AV Bedser 10. JA Snow 11. FH Tyson	England B XI 1. GA Gooch 2. AN Cook 3. ER Dexter * 4. KP Pietersen 5. DI Gower 6. FE Woolley 7. MW Tate 8. TG Evans + 9. RGD Willis 10. DL Underwood 11. JM Anderson	England C XI 1. JH Edrich 2. ME Trescothick 3. MC Cowdrey * 4. EH Hendren 5. GP Thorpe 6. A Flintoff 7. RC Russell + 8. W Rhodes 9. D Gough 10. GA Lohmann 11. JB Statham	England D XI 1. AJ Stewart 2. DL Amiss 3. TW Graveney 4. FS Jackson 5. M Leyland 6. AW Greig * 7. FR Foster 8. RW Taylor + 9. JH Wardle 10. SCJ Broad 11. T Richardson	England E XI 1. AC MacLaren * 2. A Shrewsbury 3. IJL Trott 4. CP Mead 5. E Paynter 6. JM Bairstow + 7. TE Bailey 8. GP Swann 9. W Voce 10. ARC Fraser 11. WE Bowes
England F XI 1. C Washbrook 2. MP Vaughan 3. WJ Edrich 4. KS Duleepsinhji 5. RA Smith 6. DR Jardine * 7. JM Parks + 8. GOB Allen 9. WH Lockwood 10. R Peel 11. K Farnes	England G XI 1. AJ Strauss * 2. MA Atherton 3. GE Tyldesley 4. TW Hayward 5. J Hardstaff Jr 6. BL D'Oliveira 7. MJ Prior + 8. GH Hirst 9. J Briggs 10. K Higgs 11. DJ Brown	England H XI 1. PE Richardson 2. B Abel 3. JT Tyldesley 4. IR Bell 5. AJ Lamb * 6. AG Steel 7. W Barnes 8. MJ Hoggard 9. AR Caddick 10. C Blythe 11. H Strudwick +	England I XI 1. R Subba Row 2. BC Broad 3. N Hussain 4. G Gunn 5. PH Parfitt 6. BA Stokes 7. JT Murray + 8. R Illingworth * 9. CM Old 10. SJ Harmison 11. M Hendrick	England J XI 1. AE Stoddart 2. G Pullar 3. CB Fry * 4. MW Gatting 5. KWR Fletcher 6. PD Collingwood 7. AFA Lilley + 8. W Bates 9. GAR Lock 10. GR Dilley 11. PJ Loader	England K XI 1. C Milburn 2. CAG Russell 3. DS Sheppard 4. MH Denness * 5. DW Randall 6. G Ulyett 7. BR Knight 8. DG Cork 9. G Duckworth + 10. GG Arnold 11. AP Freeman
England L XI 1. CF Walters 2. RW Barber 3. MA Butcher 4. RH Spooner 5. GA Hick 6. JWHT Douglas * 7. RWV Robins 8. PR Downton + 9. RJ Sidebottom 10. JK Lever 11. JT Hearne	England M XI 1. JDB Robertson 2. CJ Barnett 3. RT Simpson 4. MJK Smith 5. RES Wyatt 6. FR Brown * 7. GO Jones + 8. FJ Titmus 9. SP Jones 10. NAT Foster 11. CT Tremlett	England N XI 1. G Fowler 2. A Sandham 3. CT Radley 4. RE Foster 5. RA Woolmer 6. WW Read * 7. RT Spooner + 8. DA Allen 9. PAJ DeFreitas 10. G Geary 11. DW Headley	England O XI 1. RT Robinson 2. BW Luckhurst 3. PJ Sharpe 4. W Gunn 5. AJ Watkins 6. GL Jessop 7. NWD Yardley * 8. G MacGregor + 9. ST Finn 10. R Appleyard 11. IAR Peebles

 

[Starfighter]

Yardley

there does seem to be a real reluctance to pick spinners:

Hollies, Tattersall, Panesar, Jack White, Moeen Ali, Geoff Miller, Edmonds, Tufnell, Emburey, Cook, Giles, Croft, Pocock

all had reasonable careers (not world beaters obviously), but unpicked.

my Eng P XI
Tavare, Watson, Ballance, Ramprakash, Crawley, Buttler, Ali, Bresnan, Malcolm, Mullally, Hollies

Not sure how unlucky some are, White and Hollies certainly but Pocock and Giles averaged over 40, which ain't very good. Also not sure about Malcolm and Mullally.

Yet Dean Headley made it comfortably. Is there something I missed with him? As Nufan would say, I never got the memo that he was any good.

Better average than Harmison, Hoggard, Finn, DeFreitas etc. Better bowler too.

There's a few good pace bowlers who missed had curtailed careers and missed out. Larter and Rumsey would both walk into the current team. Arthur Fielder was perhaps a bit too far back in time for most. Les Jackson only played twice yet was better than a great many who are listed, not least due to the two pace + Bailey strategy that persisted through the fifties and England's selection strategy that valued being from the right counties, which Derbyshire wasn't, and class and appearance more than skill. Should probably have gone to Australia in 50/51 when England were still desperate for some genuine pace.

 

[NUFAN]

And we are done. Starfighter has already added the captaincy above, I feel I have to do it anyway.

England O XI
1 Tim Robinson
2 Brian Luckhurst
3 Phil Sharpe
4 William Gunn
5 Allan Watkins
6 Gilbert Jessop
7 Norman Yardley*
8 Gregor MacGregor+
9 Steven Finn
10 Bob Appleyard
11 Ian Peebles

Were there any teams that you feel are actually better than the teams ahead of them?

 

[Starfighter]

Starfighter has already added the captaincy above

No-one else was going to get enough votes so I decided to call it early.

Were there any teams that you feel are actually better than the teams ahead of them?

Would be an easier question to answer if I knew or remembered anything about batsmen.

 

[AndrewB]

Were there any teams that you feel are actually better than the teams ahead of them?

I'd rank F above E.

Surprised that David Steele wasn't picked - obviously he didn't have a long career, but didn't do a lot wrong in the two tough series he did play in.

 

[Starfighter]

I think I mentioned him once then forget about him.


That sometimes happens.