4th Test (Old Trafford, Manchester) - 23rd to 27th of July

[Ju7]

I think I heard on the radio earlier today that Wood won't be fit enough for The Oval after all.

Yep that's what I've heard too.At the beginning of the series the talk was of him hopefully playing in that match but it's not going to happen.

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

If its a draw then I think you have to punt Bumrah especially as Kambooj and Krishna haven't look good unfortunately.

Bumrah at 70% will always merit a place in this team.

Siraj must also be quite tired though .

The Indian management were always adamant that Bumrah would only play 3 Tests, it will be interesting to see if they stick to that if they can draw but not win the series at the Oval

 

[wpdavid]

What do we think of Dawson's performance today? I've not seen any of it, so all I know is he hasn't taken any wickets on a Day 4 & 5 wicket. And that he's been economical, but that's against a side playing for the draw. Maybe I'm being unfair.

 

[jaydesh]

What do we think of Dawson's performance today? I've not seen any of it, so all I know is he hasn't taken any wickets on a Day 4 & 5 wicket. And that he's been economical, but that's against a side playing for the draw. Maybe I'm being unfair.

Coming back after 8 years was always going to be a stiff ask. He's definitely a lot better than Bashir in terms of threatening the edge. His batting also provides some depth in the lower order. The problem is that this pitch has pretty much set him up to fail.

 

[Johan]

What do we think of Dawson's performance today? I've not seen any of it, so all I know is he hasn't taken any wickets on a Day 4 & 5 wicket. And that he's been economical, but that's against a side playing for the draw. Maybe I'm being unfair.

Root has looked a more threatening spinner.

 

[cnerd123]

What do we think of Dawson's performance today? I've not seen any of it, so all I know is he hasn't taken any wickets on a Day 4 & 5 wicket. And that he's been economical, but that's against a side playing for the draw. Maybe I'm being unfair.

Hasn't hit the rough much, is a bit flat. Doesn't get the kind of bounce a taller spinner would.

Root has looked a more threatening spinner.

Spinning it away vs the lefties + giving it more air. Almost has the license to throw it up because they're not banking on him to hold up an end. Dawson sort of has to be more disciplined.

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

I'd forgotten about Tongue actually. I was thinking Atkinson and Potts. Maybe two of those three.

I like Potts, but he seems to be out of the reckoning considering Cook and Overton have played/been named in squads over him. I think the management have pigeonholed Woakes, Potts and Cook as the sort of slower, traditional English bowler in this team to fight out for one place in the team, and while in an ideal world I wouldn’t have Woakes in the team anymore, he’s not been the worst England bowler this Test at all

 

[Ju7]

What do we think of Dawson's performance today? I've not seen any of it, so all I know is he hasn't taken any wickets on a Day 4 & 5 wicket. And that he's been economical, but that's against a side playing for the draw. Maybe I'm being unfair.

Hasn't been threatening really but has been economical.Just over 2 an over.

 

[Arachnödouche2.0]

The Indian management were always adamant that Bumrah would only play 3 Tests, it will be interesting to see if they stick to that if they can draw but not win the series at the Oval

Has to play else that, and you'd imagine there will be more such in the future, will be a huge asterisk next to his overall reckoning in the ATG stakes.

 

[wpdavid]

I like Potts, but he seems to be out of the reckoning considering Cook and Overton have played/been named in squads over him. I think the management have pigeonholed Woakes, Potts and Cook as the sort of slower, traditional English bowler in this team to fight out for one place in the team, and while in an ideal world I wouldn’t have Woakes in the team anymore, he’s not been the worst England bowler this Test at all

Is that Jamie Overton? I can't say I rate him.

 

[Ju7]

I like Potts, but he seems to be out of the reckoning considering Cook and Overton have played/been named in squads over him. I think the management have pigeonholed Woakes, Potts and Cook as the sort of slower, traditional English bowler in this team to fight out for one place in the team, and while in an ideal world I wouldn’t have Woakes in the team anymore, he’s not been the worst England bowler this Test at all

I'm not sure the English management are sold on Cook

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

What do we think of Dawson's performance today? I've not seen any of it, so all I know is he hasn't taken any wickets on a Day 4 & 5 wicket. And that he's been economical, but that's against a side playing for the draw. Maybe I'm being unfair.

Most countries’ management will place a lot of value on economy, but I don’t think Ben and Baz will, I don’t think Bashir has much to fear

 

[Ju7]

I'd forgotten about Tongue actually. I was thinking Atkinson and Potts. Maybe two of those three.

I don't rate Tongue.

 

[Arachnödouche2.0]

What do we think of Dawson's performance today? I've not seen any of it, so all I know is he hasn't taken any wickets on a Day 4 & 5 wicket. And that he's been economical, but that's against a side playing for the draw. Maybe I'm being unfair.

Economical (no Pant to deal with, mind) but not much more.

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

Is that Jamie Overton? I can't say I rate him.

Yep, was in the squad earlier in the series but once Archer and Atkinson were named in the squad, he’s gone back to Surrey. Bowled well against the Windies in the white ball series before ****ing his finger up, but I’m not overly keen on him

 

[Gob]

I don't rate Tongue.

That's not what she said

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Jofra is cranking up the pace

 

[wpdavid]

Ah well, off to watch the footie now.

 

[jaydesh]

How much time until the Raza and Tucker will ask the two sides if they want to call the match off and shake hands? A result looks unlikely at the moment.

 

[LangleyburyCCPlayer]

I'm not sure the English management are sold on Cook

Woakes has played all 4 Tests so far despite looking like he’s lost a step, Cook played against Zimbabwe and was in the squad earlier in the series ahead of Potts, I agree that they don’t seem overly keen on Cook, which must mean that they’re even less keen on Potts