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2007 has been pretty good for England ODI side.
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pasag
RTDAS
Yeah he's looked poor for a while now in both forms. He sort of has a couple of good knocks that everyone starts raving about him like Adelaide and the CB finals and then does stuff all for the next 10 games, especially at times when the side needs him the most. Certainly not a crunch player for mine and seems to get out at the worst possible times of matches these days, well that's the perception I get anyways. Shouldn't be a certainty on the English teamsheet (although the waiting list doesn't look too crash hot).
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
He's clearly better than England's fourth batting option, Shah.
The batting options being the middle order, with Pietersen>Bell>>Collingwood>>>>>Shah.
There's noone really bashing the door down, and noone putting Collingwood under pressure. Face it, he's been England's third best batsman in ODI's this year. He's inconsistent, yes. But when he's on fire he can really make a difference, as he's shown. Wouldn't you rather have a guy play like Collingwood has this year than someone who has played like, I dunno, Prior?
The batting options being the middle order, with Pietersen>Bell>>Collingwood>>>>>Shah.
There's noone really bashing the door down, and noone putting Collingwood under pressure. Face it, he's been England's third best batsman in ODI's this year. He's inconsistent, yes. But when he's on fire he can really make a difference, as he's shown. Wouldn't you rather have a guy play like Collingwood has this year than someone who has played like, I dunno, Prior?
Richard
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Where have I ever said there are hundreds of better options?
There's only one person up and down the country I'd rate as better at ODI batting (not neccessarily Bell at all, he's almost as bad - tends to score a bit more consistently, but only a bit, and has to date only had 1 really impressive series) who's not in the side, that being Usman Afzaal, who barely played any one-day cricket last season, so he hardly has a compelling case to be in the side.
Beyond a doubt he's better than Shah and Prior.
All I've ever argued is that while Collingwood is one of England's better ODI batsmen, we're unlikely to have that strong a batting side, because he's really not all that good. Something some seem to dispute - I've even heard one or two compare him to the Hicks and Fairbrothers, which is such arrant nonsense it beggars belief.
There's only one person up and down the country I'd rate as better at ODI batting (not neccessarily Bell at all, he's almost as bad - tends to score a bit more consistently, but only a bit, and has to date only had 1 really impressive series) who's not in the side, that being Usman Afzaal, who barely played any one-day cricket last season, so he hardly has a compelling case to be in the side.
Beyond a doubt he's better than Shah and Prior.
All I've ever argued is that while Collingwood is one of England's better ODI batsmen, we're unlikely to have that strong a batting side, because he's really not all that good. Something some seem to dispute - I've even heard one or two compare him to the Hicks and Fairbrothers, which is such arrant nonsense it beggars belief.