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  1. bagapath

    The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

    Aus ATG XI Mathew Hayden Victor Trumper Sir Donald Bradman * Greg Chappell Steven Smith Allan Border Adam Gilchrist + Keith Miller Shane Warne Dennis Lillee Glen McGrath Aus ATG 2nd XI Bob Simpson * Arthur Morris Ricky Ponting Neil Harvey Michael Clarke Steve Waugh Ian Healy + Alan Davidson...
  2. bagapath

    2024 Ranking of Batsmen Poll

    no
  3. bagapath

    Is James Anderson an ATG test bowler?

    well... I did not pick and choose any period; I am just saying, overall, his record in india is mediocre.
  4. bagapath

    Is James Anderson an ATG test bowler?

    is that what you got from my post? I said his NZ record is bad but he is an ATG for all other reasons So build an ATG argument for Anderson accepting his bad India record, rather than pretending his india record is fine (which is as stupid as claiming Marshall's NZ record is not a weakness). Got it?
  5. bagapath

    Is James Anderson an ATG test bowler?

    possible argument... use longevity... use whatever... don't say his india record is good
  6. bagapath

    Is James Anderson an ATG test bowler?

    ATMII All Time Mediocre In India
  7. bagapath

    Is James Anderson an ATG test bowler?

    not in india 17 tests 44 wickets at 30 is not very good.
  8. bagapath

    Is James Anderson an ATG test bowler?

    In case this is not clear.... Malcolm Marshall is an ATG. Possibly the greatest. He averages 32 in New Zealand at 3 wks/ test. It is only 3 three tests. And he averaged 26 per wicket before the last innings he bowled in and went wicketless. Despite these excuses it is a chink in his armour. He...
  9. bagapath

    Is James Anderson an ATG test bowler?

    30 average combined with 2.5 wks per test is toothless. it is not a step towards ATG status
  10. bagapath

    Is James Anderson an ATG test bowler?

    they can have good, mediocre or terrible records. but a mediocre record cant be touted as a good element in the overall argument. build a case for the ATG status despite the chinks; instead of pretending that they are not chinks but shiny diamonds
  11. bagapath

    Is James Anderson an ATG test bowler?

    so give him a man of the match award if you want. his record in india is mediocre. it dilutes the ATG argument - does not strengthen it.
  12. bagapath

    2024 Ranking of Batsmen Poll

    Gilchrist Pietersen Gooch
  13. bagapath

    Is James Anderson an ATG test bowler?

    n Pakistan 2022-2022 2 4 67.0 17 148 8 4/36 5/88 18.50 2.20 50.2 0 0 in U.A.E. 2012-2015 6 12 216.0 63 452 22 4/17 6/69 20.54 2.09 58.9 0 0 in England 2003-2023 105 200 3794.2 1008 10634 434 7/42 11/71 24.50 2.80 52.4 24 3 in West Indies 2009-2019 10 17 346.3 95 893 36 6/42 7/77 24.80...
  14. bagapath

    2024 Ranking of Batsmen Poll

    Gilchrist Pietersen Lloyd
  15. bagapath

    Is James Anderson an ATG test bowler?

    in an ATG debate, his india numbers are pulling him down is what I am saying. by no means are those numbers gonna help the argument in his favour. there is nothing dishonest about those numbers.
  16. bagapath

    Is James Anderson an ATG test bowler?

    if 2.5 wks/test at 30 is good enough to make someone an ATG then india would be happy to face four such opposition bowlers in each and every test
  17. bagapath

    Is James Anderson an ATG test bowler?

    those are different points in the discussion. my post doesnt claim to negate those. what I am stating here is that his record in ashes put him in the mediocre bracket. and in india he was ineffective, irrespective of who else did better/worse than him in his times. there was no number tweaking...
  18. bagapath

    Is James Anderson an ATG test bowler?

    how is it dishonest? the conversation is about whether he is ATG or not. why would a top bowler in the last 14 years in india be considered an ATG? and its 2.5 wickets per test?
  19. bagapath

    Is James Anderson an ATG test bowler?

    61 players have taken 50 wickets or more in the Ashes. Anderson is 58th in terms of average. In India, among the fast bowlers with 20 wickets, he is 26th out of 33 (with 2.58 wks per test). It is really tough to add his name along with even ATVG pacers, forget about ATG status.
  20. bagapath

    2024 Ranking of Batsmen Poll

    Gilchrist Hill Inzamam

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