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    Bradman v Paynter

    No, I'm not crazy. I'm just pointing out how ridiculous some of these comparisons can be and how statistics don't reveal a full story. Don Bradman and Eddie Paynter played in 7 Tests at the same time. 3 in Australia in 1933 (Adelaide, Brisbane and Sydney) and 4 in England in 1938 (Trent Bridge...
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    2024 Ranking of Batsmen Poll

    We'll go ahead with a normal 3,2,1 vote for the first three positions - even though I expect Bradman to be almost automatic for top place. Voting will be open for roughly 24 hours and we will elect 3 each day until our Top 50 is established. Bradman Hobbs Sobers
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    2022 v 2024 Bowlers Polls

    In 2022 we had polls for both spinners and pacers. Because some felt Barnes, Bedser an Philander weren't true fast bowlers, none of these three appeared in those polls. I have looked at the 2024 overall poll and compared the bowlers' standings with their '22 rankings in the relative categories...
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    2024 Ranking of Bowlers Poll

    In 2022 we had two separate polls to determine the Top 40 Pace men and the Top 30 spinners. The results are readily available but there are obvious anomalies. For instance Barnes and Bedser, two excellent bowlers, missed out simply because they weren't regarded as true quicks. In addition...
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    Four Eras Draft Final Voting

    We are down to the final 5 teams from 16 starters. All teams have shown merit as evidenced by the first round of voting. Once again, could voters nominate their first and second choice in order. I hope to see all participants voting and invite 'spectators' to add their votes. Teuton ataraxia...
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    Comparing Modern Openers

    In all, there are 8 openers who have scored over 8,000 runs. If we look beyond their total averages we see some interesting facts when comparing theor home and away records. Nor surprisingly, Dave Warner has the best home record and the worst away record of the 8 openers. Conversely, Graeme...
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    Four Eras Test Draft Voting

    The 16 teams have been divided into 4 groups of 4 as per indicated in the main thread. Please nominate your choice of two in order from each group. It's probably best for participants to abstain from voting in their group. Group A Patience & Accuracy Pothas Teuton Bitmap Gordon...
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    Hard Men of Cricket

    By 'hard' I mean ruthless, resolute and somewhat set in their ways. Two that spring to mind are from a similar era - Ian Chappell and Ray Illingworth. Illingworth in particular could be quite ruthless. He once said of Graham Hick, “A bit of a soft centre? We dropped Hick after one game and...
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    Four Eras Test Draft

    When the ODI World Cup is over I intend to start a new draft. Participants will make teams by selecting players who made their debut in various eras. This will be done on the following basis: 2 players who made their debut before WWI 3 players who made their debut between the wars (1918-1938)...
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    Greg Chappell Today

    When he retired Greg Chappell turned down the opportunity to have a testimonial. However, following financial difficulties, he now has a GoFundMe page organised and a planned Testimonial dinner by former teammates. Chappell now rents his home in Adelaide and his recent initiatives include the...
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    Which Decade Saw the Best Players Debut?

    Discounting the 2020s I have attempted to compile the best teams from players making their debut in each of the past 5 decades. I have tried to maintain a reasonable balance for teams with batsmen placed in their usual spot and attacks comprising 3 or 4 pacers and 1 or 2 spinners. I'd be...
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    Bumrah Proves Fitness

    In what is good news for India supporters and their team's chances, Jasprit Bumrah proved his fitness with a solid display against Ireland. He was named the MOM.
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    Which Ball Tampering is the Worst?

    Over the years there have been various forms of ball tampering. There has been two forms of actually damaging the ball - sandpaper and bottle tops being the forms of damage using foreign objects. There has also been what might be called 'man made' damage by seam picking and even biting. The...
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    Prerequisite For Draft Managers

    A number of drafts have been conducted where the member conducting the draft (and subsequent voting thread) has failed to post the results on the Draft Winners Honour Board. The last entry was in May and we have had drafts completed before and since with nothing posted on the Honour Board. I...
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    Abbott's T20 Century

    I'm sure Burgey will have smiled at this achievement. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-27/sean-abbott-hits-record-equaling-ton-in-english-t20/102401328 Abbott's knock commences about 1.45 on this clip.
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    How Good Was Sydney F Barnes?

    A lot has been posted about Sydney Barnes in various ATG discussions. Just how good was he? The passages below are excerpts from an article which appeared in "Roar" under "All-Day-Roseville-All-Day" Sydney Francis Barnes was born 150 years ago this week, on 19 April 1873. It’s timely for him...
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    Cummins' Captaincy

    I have been somewhat disappointed with Cummins as a captain. Opting not to bowl a single delivery in India's 2nd innings shows a lack of faith in his own ability. This was also evident when India's tail was wagging in the 1st dig. True, it was a spinners' wicket but sometimes a little variety is...
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    Players Who Retired Early

    Cricket followers will often comment on players' longevity, but what of those Test players who retired before they turned 30? By this, I mean actually retiring rather than being dropped and then retiring. Here are a couple of classic examples. Paul Sheahan made his Test debut against India in...
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    Bruce Reid

    I was considering doing this as a player comparison but decided we have more than enough of these. Instead I'll pose a question, "Why is Ryan Harris held in such high regard in some CW quarters yet Bruce Reid rarely rates a mention?" Both had relatively short careers with very similar results...
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    Player Comparisons

    The number of the player comparisons are now cluttering Cricket Chat. Some of these comparisons are, IMO, bordering on ridiculous - comparing bowlers with all-rounders being an example. Perhaps it is time to lump all of these player comparisons under one section - as was done with drafts. This...

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