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  1. Matt79

    cricket scandals

    Oh definitely. Ball tampering is a very serious issue that should be harshly dealt with as well, but within the relative context of serious breaches of rules I reckon involving in 'fixing' any part of the game is the worst.
  2. Matt79

    A.F.L. Thread II

    Your approach is more sensible I reckon.
  3. Matt79

    cricket scandals

    Yeah, the Woolmer incident doesn't look any better in the light of these recent revelations. Or the Pakistan team's loss to Ireland that preceeded it. Or their loss other startling losses to associate teams at major tournaments.
  4. Matt79

    ***Official*** Spot-Fixing Scandal

    Poor donkeys, must be sitting there thinking "what did we do to deserve this". Just for Burgey and the other Pooh fans out there:
  5. Matt79

    A.F.L. Thread II

    Yeah, so Hawthorn would have been told after the 2nd strike then?
  6. Matt79

    ***Official*** Spot-Fixing Scandal

    I suppose the bookies here had the example of Shane Warne, who was the highest paid and profiled cricketer in Aus at the time, not exactly running a mile when 'John' wanted to make friends. Probably reflects that Watson and Haddin have better judgement than Warne that they rebuffed it, but also...
  7. Matt79

    cricket scandals

    Nah, there were shonky dealings involving bookies before there was international cricket, and ever since. I think what is different today is the sums of money, the systematic picking off of players to take part, fans expectations, and the fact that it is now explicit that such dealing are...
  8. Matt79

    *Official* Pakistan in England 2010

    lol, team managers must hate twitter so much. Probably the best thing for him ahead of the Ashes though.
  9. Matt79

    The Aamer Situation

    He's not exactly being made a scapegoat either. Butt and Asif are also in the gun, and the middle-man is facing criminal charges. Being punished /= scapegoating.
  10. Matt79

    ***Official*** Spot-Fixing Scandal

    whooosh I guess. I don't remember them in the news. Probably says more about the media I suppose. EDIT: You're quite right. I don't know whether the players were named, but the fact an approach was made to two players at that hotel was reported...
  11. Matt79

    A.F.L. Thread II

    You reckon? I thought it came out after he was hospitalised, and the police became involved - rather than having anything to do with it being his third strike. Apparently this only counts as a 'strike' because he admitted he had breached the policy - ie he never tested positive.
  12. Matt79

    A.F.L. Thread II

    Travis Tuck the first player to get a 'third strike' and be named as such under the AFL's policy. Alarming, if I've understood Kennett's comments correctly, that apparently the Hawks knew nothing of this until 24 hours AFTER this latest incident. Hope he gets whatever help he needs, but it...
  13. Matt79

    ***Official*** Spot-Fixing Scandal

    Don't know whether people have seen the comments by Haddin and Watson regarding the approaches they received, and reported, during their recent tour in England: SEN SportSENtral > Article Depressing stuff, although at least it sounds like they did the right thing. Interesting that it was...
  14. Matt79

    cricket scandals

    Yeah, shenigans have gone hand-in-hand with cricket for a long time. Lillee was the player who brought an aluminium bat on the field. He had got involved in a company that was manufacturing them at the time and did so to promote them. It wasn't illegal then, but was made so shortly...
  15. Matt79

    will you still watch pakistan games if the accused pak players beat the charges?

    Yeah, would depend on whether they were exonerated, or whether they were found guilty but were given inadequate punishments.
  16. Matt79

    ***Official*** Spot-Fixing Scandal

    Yeah, I don't think it does anyone any good for these guys to be involved in the ODI series, if it proceeds.
  17. Matt79

    ***Official*** Spot-Fixing Scandal

    Not a problem. Obviously emotions on this issue are running reasonably high, so we are (trying) to be pretty vigilant about anything with the potential to cause fights on the forum. Can I suggest that if you want to have a conversation about how this scandal compares to others from the past...
  18. Matt79

    ***Official*** Spot-Fixing Scandal

    Fromage - No. We are not derailing this conversation by dragging every other instance of ethical breaches we can imagine under the sun in and making it all one big ball. Consider this a warning against derailing the conversation and seeking to bait others into doing the same.
  19. Matt79

    ***Official*** Spot-Fixing Scandal

    That's one of my favourite types of self-abuse! :p All Occam's Razor means here is if there are only two explanations, the much simpler one is more likely. Or phrased alternatively, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, craps like a duck and is delicious when double-roasted and wrapped...
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