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    *Official* England in India 2023/24 #CryMoreTour

    I don't care if India plays the next WTC final or not, it's clear to me that at least the Indian board cares more about IPL than any other ICC trophy! But even if Pak or SL played in Eng would you be singing the same tune? For some reason it's India & so it's okay? If you really want to make it...
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    *Official* England in India 2023/24 #CryMoreTour

    I said conditions overall - not just the pitch. Why do you think India is so hard to bowl in for pacers from SA/NZ/Oz or Eng? Just the pitches or something else as well? It's because it's hot - you don't see 8 or 10 over spells except in cooler seasons. Likewise our spinners don't always bowl...
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    *Official* England in India 2023/24 #CryMoreTour

    As compared to someone who's pretending to ignore why England is not neutral? How about you come back with actual logic instead trying to blow off your fuse on why your last win over there was glorious & all. What's there not to accept - we were beaten, that's the end! But it's funny Aussies (or...
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    *Official* England in India 2023/24 #CryMoreTour

    Or the third? You know damn well conditions make all the difference in cricket - In Eng all the top 5 avg bowlers from Oz are pacers! Gee I wonder why? Then you pretend why people don't call out this :dry: Primary team Australia Home or away away (home of opposition) or neutral venue Host...
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    *Official* England in India 2023/24 #CryMoreTour

    It's just shy of an MLM any way, even the two year cycle makes no sense given few teams will play most of their games at home in this time strongly boosting their chances of a finals berth! ICC's just like Trump (name) selling it's name for the LCD :laugh:
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    *Official* England in India 2023/24 #CryMoreTour

    Tried this thing called dictionary recently?
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    *Official* England in India 2023/24 #CryMoreTour

    The venue changes everything you played 3 spinners in India, how many did you field in England in last year's WTC final? This is clearly a facetious argument! Primary team Australia Home or away away (home of opposition) or neutral venue Host country England Start of match date greater...
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    How would 80s WI and 2000s Australia fare in unbeatable current India?

    True but generally all of them played against sh!t openers. Everyone except McGrath/Pollock vs Sehwag & Sehwag did great in the one flat deck at Chennai batting second. Was wrongly given lbw in second innings at Bangalore by crooked finger Bowden & had two fairly seam friendly decks in...
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    How would 80s WI and 2000s Australia fare in unbeatable current India?

    It also means that these guys would play reverse sweeps/laps or other T20 shots which the other lot did not, you said Oz won because they dried up the runs - it can be countered through T20 shots especially on flattish Indian decks!
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    How would 80s WI and 2000s Australia fare in unbeatable current India?

    And they likely wouldn't today because - IPL ✌
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    How would 80s WI and 2000s Australia fare in unbeatable current India?

    Cummins is definitely better than anyone bar McGrath in the last 30+ years, the rest are hard to gauge because pitches in Oz were absolutely flat in 2k's even till say 2015 India tour down under. They had no DRS back then so Lee/Gillespie's numbers suffered a bit. We've had our best ever bowling...
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    How would 80s WI and 2000s Australia fare in unbeatable current India?

    That's fine but we're talking about Aus best side & WI, he wouldn't make it to either of them. In the context of this thread he's irrelevant. Most great (A tear) pacers in India did a lot of damage with the new ball, this is assuming pitches aren't like Ranchi 2017 or Ahmedabad 2023 et al.
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    How would 80s WI and 2000s Australia fare in unbeatable current India?

    Oz even at their best were not great players of spin. Khawaja was batting with very little pressure when we imploded in the first innings, Marnus was one review away from another failure that test - RGS didn't take that review. Khawaja's best innings was similar to Smith's in 2017 with little...
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    *Official* England in India 2023/24 #CryMoreTour

    You can't this is why playing one game home then away is better IMO, outside of that WI is probably the most neutral with its Dukes balls.
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    How would 80s WI and 2000s Australia fare in unbeatable current India?

    Unless they want to be ready for broken f***** arms & legs they wouldn't make those dodgy pitches against WI four quicks, against Oz they could get away with it on occasions.
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    *Official* England in India 2023/24 #CryMoreTour

    Of course it's not NZ played 4 quicks in Eng in the last final & still won, India played 2 spinners - by nature of their bowling attacks it should be pretty clear which venues support/favor which teams! In Asia spinners are generally the better or lead bowlers, outside they're support bowlers...
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    *Official* England in India 2023/24 #CryMoreTour

    Among the most useless competitions ever! Eng is not a neutral venue for Asian teams, anyone with half a pint of blood in their brains would know that. Most S.E.N.A. have at least a 50/50 chance to beat Asian teams in any of these 4 host countries, they have a near zero chance of beating India...
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    How would 80s WI and 2000s Australia fare in unbeatable current India?

    Oz would also be worst off in India because pretty much all of their (major) wins in India have come batting first in the last 2+ decades - in fact before Indore they last won a test (in India) batting second in 2001 Wankhede. You're also forgetting how Hayden/Langer/Clarke/Gilly/Martyn heck...
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    How would 80s WI and 2000s Australia fare in unbeatable current India?

    No, lost two although Marshall had a much much more distinguished career than Shami - View overall figures [change view] Opposition team West Indies Home or away away (home of opposition) Involving the player MD Marshall (WI) Totals in terms of batting team Ordered by matches won...
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    How would 80s WI and 2000s Australia fare in unbeatable current India?

    They did come close in 2001 when NZ almost chased down a smallish score & McGrath had to resort to bowling wides, they'd probably be called test wides today! https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/new-zealand-tour-of-australia-2001-02-62085/australia-vs-new-zealand-1st-test-63953/full-scorecard The...

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