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Gordon Greenidge vs Clive Lloyd

Better Test Batsman

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BazBall21

BazBall21

International Regular
Think Lloyd v Gower is quite close. Two left handers without one of them having the opening tax factor. Would predict a comfy enough Lloyd win though.
 
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kyear2

kyear2

Cricketer Of The Year
ankitj said:
Will vote for Lloyd too. Wisden ranked him higher of the two.

http://www.cricketweb.net/forum/threads/wisden-ranks-all-time-best.2479/#post-39141
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That list, wow.....

Couple belated observations.

Was going to ask what did Hutton do to them, but then noticed that Hammond was even, and much lower. He was behind Weekes, Walcott and Headley. How bad were the attacks he faced?

Bowling wise, Murali according to those ratings are practically the equal of Bradman. Don't get me wrong, the bowling ratings are horrible, but as you or @OverratedSanity sanity asked recently, do we underrate Murali and Warne?
 
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howitzer

State Vice-Captain
kyear2 said:
That list, wow.....

Couple belated observations.

Was going to ask what did Hutton do to them, but then noticed that Hammond was even, and much lower. He was behind Weekes, Walcott and Headley. How bad were the attacks he faced?

Bowling wise, Murali according to those ratings are practically the equal of Bradman. Don't get me wrong, the bowling ratings are horrible, but as you or @OverratedSanity sanity asked recently, do we underrate Murali and Warne?
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Worth noting that Tendulkar's points for second in batting would only be good enough to get him 44th in bowling, behind Merv Hughes of all people. Either something is a bit off with the weighting or @shortpitched713 was right all along.
 
BazBall21

BazBall21

International Regular
kyear2 said:
That list, wow.....

Couple belated observations.

Was going to ask what did Hutton do to them, but then noticed that Hammond was even, and much lower. He was behind Weekes, Walcott and Headley. How bad were the attacks he faced?

Bowling wise, Murali according to those ratings are practically the equal of Bradman. Don't get me wrong, the bowling ratings are horrible, but as you or @OverratedSanity sanity asked recently, do we underrate Murali and Warne?
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Hammond faced very weak bowling across his career and that seems to be a key parameter with Gooch so high.

Would say Weekes/Walcott faced better bowling for sure but with kinder home conditions and less longevity.
 
kyear2

kyear2

Cricketer Of The Year
howitzer said:
Worth noting that Tendulkar's points for second in batting would only be good enough to get him 44th in bowling, behind Merv Hughes of all people. Either something is a bit off with the weighting or @shortpitched713 was right all along.
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Well since the last one can't be true, the weightings are wayyy off.

Firstly the bowler rating way too heavily favors lone warriors and penalizes for having stronger team mates. Grimmett at 4 and Walsh at 10 are jokes tbh.

The batting ratings are eye openers though. Viv at 3 and Hammond at 20 @Coronis & @Prince EWS ummmm

But on a serious note, wonder where Smith would slot in.
 
kyear2

kyear2

Cricketer Of The Year
BazBall21 said:
Hammond faced very weak bowling across his career and that seems to be a key parameter with Gooch so high.

Would say Weekes/Walcott faced better bowling for sure but with kinder home conditions and less longevity.
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Yeah, bowling and pitch quality were heavily factored in.

Wouldn't stress on the kinder home conditions as the were no easier than Australian batting conditions in the 30's and 40's and only slightly easier than the British ones.
The home conditions though were way more challenging.
 
Coronis

Coronis

Cricketer Of The Year
kyear2 said:
Well since the last one can't be true, the weightings are wayyy off.

Firstly the bowler rating way too heavily favors lone warriors and penalizes for having stronger team mates. Grimmett at 4 and Walsh at 10 are jokes tbh.

The batting ratings are eye openers though. Viv at 3 and Hammond at 20 @Coronis & @Prince EWS ummmm

But on a serious note, wonder where Smith would slot in.
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Well if Wisden says so that’s completely changed my mind on Viv.
 
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