*Official* Group B Discussion - South Africa, Sri Lanka, New Zealand, England - Page 75

James · 29-09-2009, 09:35 PM

I guess the question will come - are 15-man squads large enough for major tournaments? Do the ICC need to allow 18-19 man squads to cover injuries?

thierry henry · 29-09-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Athlai

No they played very well in that match. If we were ten runs too short it was because of Broom-Cumming-Fulton's failures.

It was a total we should well have defended.

You are out of your mind if you believe that

Polo23 · 29-09-2009, 09:53 PM

Can't believe Athlai is defending the "Baz to build an innings" plan.

Firstly he doesn't have the defensive technique to play that kind of innings, secondly he obviously doesn't have the mindset to play that kind of innings and thirdly he was the world's BEST ODI batsman in the 18 months he was teeing off at everything.

I don't see how you can back a strategy that has him score a slow 30-40 runs, puts pressure on the middle order and whoever he is batting with and doesn't make use of the powerplays when he was playing the best cricket of his life as a pinch hitter.

Raghav · 29-09-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Raghav

Bracken Out of the competition
Yuvraj out of the competition
Gibbs injured
Younis injured

I get a feeling that.......

Everything is being set for NZ winning this tournament

Hopes Still Alive

NZ did it in Oct 2000 and they will do it again in Oct 2009

Raghav · 29-09-2009, 09:56 PM

McCullum would not have got those many runs, had Strauss has asked the wicket keeper to stand up to the stumps

McCullum is ****ting batter if the WK stands up to stumps. Dhoni, Sangakkara employs this strategy against McCullum very early in the innings..

Athlai · 29-09-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Polo23

Can't believe Athlai is defending the "Baz to build an innings" plan.

Firstly he doesn't have the defensive technique to play that kind of innings, secondly he obviously doesn't have the mindset to play that kind of innings and thirdly he was the world's BEST ODI batsman in the 18 months he was teeing off at everything.

I don't see how you can back a strategy that has him score a slow 30-40 runs, puts pressure on the middle order and whoever he is batting with and doesn't make use of the powerplays when he was playing the best cricket of his life as a pinch hitter.

I'm defending McCullum more than the plan. People are blaming him for doing it, when he is doing it for the team. And he wasn't the worlds best ODI batsman.

We are however wasting his pinch hitting abilities, but he is only doing as he is told. Fair play to him for playing a difficult role as the younger players develop.

thierry henry · 29-09-2009, 10:17 PM

btw (and this is entirely unrelated to his batting atm), no comments on McCullum still being a bit of a knob? More dodgy goings-on with the Collingwood "dismissal", what is the guy's deal?

Athlai · 29-09-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by thierry henry

You are out of your mind if you believe that

If we had our current attack we should have defended the total. With an ODI attack led by the young Southee and the poor at ODI cricket O'Brien we couldn't defend anything under 300.

JimmyGS · 29-09-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thierry henry

btw (and this is entirely unrelated to his batting atm), no comments on McCullum still being a bit of a knob? More dodgy goings-on with the Collingwood "dismissal", what is the guy's deal?

This isn't my opinion as I've never met the guy. But the subject has come up a lot while talking to people who have worked with him. He's generally regarded as an arrogant, self-obsessed dickhead. When I say generally, I mean that not one person has had a contrasting opinion.

99* · 29-09-2009, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by thierry henry

btw (and this is entirely unrelated to his batting atm), no comments on McCullum still being a bit of a knob? More dodgy goings-on with the Collingwood "dismissal", what is the guy's deal?

TBF it looked like he threw it before Harper called over.

Athlai · 29-09-2009, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyGS

This isn't my opinion as I've never met the guy. But the subject has come up a lot while talking to people who have worked with him. He's generally regarded as an arrogant, self-obsessed dickhead. When I say generally, I mean that not one person has had a contrasting opinion.

What are other players like?

Pretty interested in knowing what Jeets, Franklin, Vettori, Taylor, Ryder and Guppy are like.

Flem274* · 29-09-2009, 11:20 PM

McCullum isn't doing so well, lets all do a character assasination!!!

And they say I'm knee jerk.

Athlai · 29-09-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Flem274*

McCullum isn't doing so well, lets all do a character assasination!!!

And they say I'm knee jerk.

Eh? It was to do with him pulling a Murali-esque run out again.

And McCullum does seem like a bit of a prick. Not that I really have an opinion on that as I've never met him.

Flem274* · 29-09-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Athlai

Eh? It was to do with him pulling a Murali-esque run out again.

And McCullum does seem like a bit of a prick.

On the field sure, but having not actualy met the guy its a bit unfair to start judjing character based on a game of sport. There's plenty of examples where guys that are douches on the pitch are awesome off it.

Flem274* · 29-09-2009, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Athlai

What are other players like?

Pretty interested in knowing what Jeets, Franklin, Vettori, Taylor, Ryder and Guppy are like.

Ryder likes to go drinking I hear.

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Polo23 International Debutant Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NZ Posts: 2,040	Can't believe Athlai is defending the "Baz to build an innings" plan. Firstly he doesn't have the defensive technique to play that kind of innings, secondly he obviously doesn't have the mindset to play that kind of innings and thirdly he was the world's BEST ODI batsman in the 18 months he was teeing off at everything. I don't see how you can back a strategy that has him score a slow 30-40 runs, puts pressure on the middle order and whoever he is batting with and doesn't make use of the powerplays when he was playing the best cricket of his life as a pinch hitter.

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Raghav Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hyderabad, India Posts: 4,037	McCullum would not have got those many runs, had Strauss has asked the wicket keeper to stand up to the stumps McCullum is ****ting batter if the WK stands up to stumps. Dhoni, Sangakkara employs this strategy against McCullum very early in the innings..

29-09-2009, 10:17 PM	#1117 (permalink)
thierry henry International Captain Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 5,032	btw (and this is entirely unrelated to his batting atm), no comments on McCullum still being a bit of a knob? More dodgy goings-on with the Collingwood "dismissal", what is the guy's deal?

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