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    Quote Originally Posted by JASON
    Mate, England have long been the ones who got whipped by everyone in ODI's. So neither you nor I should despise their occasional moments of glory which are few and far between!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyeddie
    Because few gave England a chance based purely on historical or emotional reasons (and in many cases, mindless rhetoric), what does that say? That they SHOULDN'T have made it to the final? Or, more likely, that those of us who are possibly a little older and wiser (having seen it all before) actually know a little more than the 'conclusion jumpers', of which club you have proved to be a worthy member?

    Man for man, the current England cricketers in general are a little ahead of their New Zealand counterparts in skill - where the Kiwis have almost 'over-achieved' is in the way they knit together as a unit - something England seem to be showing signs of doing themselves. Captaincy too comes into matters - Fleming is revered almost as a god when it comes to the art of captaincy, but Vaughan is proving to be quite astute himself.

    It's really brassed you off big-time hasn't it? But let me let you into a secret - it's a game, and the world doesn't stop turning because of it (well, the bit at the top where I live doesn't).
    where have i said england didnt deserve to make the final. my biggest gripe was about the pool of wi and sa. although wi look as if they will make the final atm.

    why is this tournament so late in the year? why dont we just have a coin toss to decide the champ?

    i get sick of this nz over achieved, and man for man we arnt good enough. wat more do have to do? look at odi mainly at the mo. 14 wins from 17 games this year. tests yes ur better man to man, odi's no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbuts
    where have i said england didnt deserve to make the final. my biggest gripe was about the pool of wi and sa. although wi look as if they will make the final atm.

    why is this tournament so late in the year? why dont we just have a coin toss to decide the champ?

    i get sick of this nz over achieved, and man for man we arnt good enough. wat more do have to do? look at odi mainly at the mo. 14 wins from 17 games this year. tests yes ur better man to man, odi's no.

    bond is gone. id be suprised to see him back. time to develop people like butler, sherlock and davis
    Why don't you just stop whining?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbuts
    why is this tournament so late in the year? why dont we just have a coin toss to decide the champ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyeddie
    Captaincy too comes into matters - Fleming is revered almost as a god when it comes to the art of captaincy, but Vaughan is proving to be quite astute himself.

    Although both aspire to Ricky's standards
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    Quote Originally Posted by cbuts
    why is this tournament so late in the year? why dont we just have a coin toss to decide the champ?
    NZ would still have been knocked out in the Group



    Quote Originally Posted by cbuts
    i get sick of this nz over achieved, and man for man we arnt good enough.
    Even though it's the truth and is actually praising NZ?

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    how is saying man for man were arnt better praising our team? and saying we over acheived isnt praising in my books. its just like saying ur a tinny **** team. its time people accepted we are one of the best teams around in the odis.

    ricky pontings standards as captin, wtf? a ****en donkey could captin that team and still win.

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    The Ponting comment is a long running joke (hint: check the thread entitled Ricky Ponting in Cricket Chat)

    As for being praise, it is praising the fact that they work so well as a team in spite of nnot having any world stars. Man for man you could compare them with sides like England and they'd come off worse, but they have the edge in the 12th category - teamwork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbuts
    how is saying man for man were arnt better praising our team? and saying we over acheived isnt praising in my books. its just like saying ur a tinny **** team. its time people accepted we are one of the best teams around in the odis.

    ricky pontings standards as captin, wtf? a ****en donkey could captin that team and still win.
    Not at all - a quite brilliant team where the whole is far, far greater than the sum of the individuals. See the last Rugby World Cup for further examples, and, of course, the 1966 footy World Cup (which only I, SJS and a couple others on here are old enough to remember).

    Regarding Australia being captained by a donkey, there are some who would argue that they alrea (recurring gag trails off into the distance)

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    the last rwc? you won cos u had the best forward pack since the all blacks of 1996/1997. rugby and cricket are totally different games when it comes down to team apsects. cricket is individual performances. u cant win unless someone performs as an individual

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbuts
    the last rwc? you won cos u had the best forward pack since the all blacks of 1996/1997. rugby and cricket are totally different games when it comes down to team apsects. cricket is individual performances. u cant win unless someone performs as an individual
    To say that cricket is a game of individual performances is to do the game a disservice. I appreciate that only one bowler is delivering the ball to a single batsman, but what good is a bowler without fielders (sees Crystal 'Oops' Gayle, withdraws statement)? What good is batting without partnerships?

    Now I don't know too much about Rugby Union to be able to comment (certainly nowhere near as much as you) or even sheep for that matter, so I'll leave it at that.

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    certainlly u need full team back to succed. thats what makes cricket such a unique game. is their another sport that is so individual but requires a team? mate the sheep jokes just havent been funny since 1962. and even if we do shag em, why does the world love to eat kiwi sheep so much? maybe it is that special maranaide. yea, we showed that rugby fact at the last wrc. england, whose forwards played as a team won, whilst our individualist backline bummed out to third.

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