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*Unofficial* New Zealand Black Caps Thread
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HeathDavisSpeed
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah, Keene is the surprise for me. Auckland haven’t seemingly known how to use him - looked as if they were trying to convert him into a batsman at times. That first season seems a long time ago now.
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Keen's become more of a batting all-rounder hasn't he?
No Foxcroft either. Interesting Lister is being revived.
I know he's 31 but Hazeldine could've been a fun bolter imo
No Foxcroft either. Interesting Lister is being revived.
I know he's 31 but Hazeldine could've been a fun bolter imo
Great point. We don't have many more of him. We didn't get much out of him in his 20s (ODI wise we did) but man, you'd like him bowling in as many Tests now as possible before he gets a bit long in the tooth.
I watched highlights of the Hundred the other day, geez it's yuck to watch. I have to spend most of my mental energy working out what a good f*cking economy rate is when I see the bowlers bowl five balls, then have something like 15 balls 25 runs.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah absence of Foxcroft is the one that surprised me. Thought he did quite well on the other recent A tour? Edit: yes, 203 runs at 51 and 4 wickets.
They decided not to include the near-first-XI Smith and Chapman, which is fair enough. Kelly and Carter as the two senior batsmen.
Keene's bowling a less-promising Smith/Foulkes imo i.e. on the shorter side and without natural pace. Does have batting promise and 100% has to turn into a batting allrounder, I think.
Would have liked to take Chu even as a pure batsman, but reluctantly have to admit that Dale Phillips' record is actually better so far.
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straw man
Hall of Fame Member
https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/cricket/departing-nz-selector-oversaw-big-changes-lineup
... personally attacked.
Bahnz
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Little surprised Tickner didn't get a go. With Fisher and Foulkes in there I feel there's enough youthful options in the squad. Tickner had an impressive season for CD and brings that handy extra yard of pace that could be useful in Australia or on the bazball roads. I guess maybe the selectors have moved on from him.
NZ A perhaps light by one specialist seamer as mentioned by others. So expect some overs from 2 of Clarkson / Abbas / Keene in the playing XIs.
But good to see consistent selection.
Summary:
in
Jacobs (not available for NZ A tour to Bangladesh tour due to IPL)
Keene (selectors preferred seamer all-rounder Keene over spinner all-rounder Foxcroft)
Fisher (perhaps injured before Bangladesh tour? can't recall)
out
Boyle (makes way for Jacobs, didn't make enough runs in Bangladesh to get picked ahead of Phillips / Heaphy)
Foxcroft (selectors preferred seamer all-rounder Keene over spinner all-rounder Foxcroft)
Clarke (injured)
But good to see consistent selection.
Summary:
in
Jacobs (not available for NZ A tour to Bangladesh tour due to IPL)
Keene (selectors preferred seamer all-rounder Keene over spinner all-rounder Foxcroft)
Fisher (perhaps injured before Bangladesh tour? can't recall)
out
Boyle (makes way for Jacobs, didn't make enough runs in Bangladesh to get picked ahead of Phillips / Heaphy)
Foxcroft (selectors preferred seamer all-rounder Keene over spinner all-rounder Foxcroft)
Clarke (injured)
Skyliner
International Debutant
Maybe the selection mix is a deliberate attempt to develop the allrounder stocks. Give the likes of Abbas more overs and see how he goes. He can get it through at decent pace.
There’s a Cricinfo article profiling the tour and with some comments by coach Daniel Flynn -
‘While development is a key focus, Flynn stressed that the team is also heading to South Africa with a strong emphasis on performance. "We're obviously going there to perform and win games of cricket," he said. "But we're also conscious of balancing that with the development of the guys and the opportunity the tour presents for them."’
There’s a Cricinfo article profiling the tour and with some comments by coach Daniel Flynn -
‘While development is a key focus, Flynn stressed that the team is also heading to South Africa with a strong emphasis on performance. "We're obviously going there to perform and win games of cricket," he said. "But we're also conscious of balancing that with the development of the guys and the opportunity the tour presents for them."’
Some of these guys are potentially in the 2027 WC squad. In addition, some of them may also end up in Test squads to tour South Africa as soon as the 2027-9 WTC. This will be good for their development & to get them some experience in African conditions against good opposition.
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Immenso
International Vice-Captain
When I am critiquing these A squads. I am doing it entirely from a red ball POV.
Kenne, last summer certainly showed he had something as a white ball allrounder.
With JAMification of ODIs, I don't think the value of A cricket white-ball is anywhere near as valuable as the red ball part of the tour.
Kenne, last summer certainly showed he had something as a white ball allrounder.
With JAMification of ODIs, I don't think the value of A cricket white-ball is anywhere near as valuable as the red ball part of the tour.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
I agree with them - good to have Tickner on the domestic scene but not going to make it at international level. I could see the use for a senior bowler on the A tour, but when the over-30 options (from the top of the Plunket shield wicket charts) are him, Rae or Kuggeleijn, then yeah nah.
Not that he really fits in that category, but it's a shame Shipley seems perma-injured now.
Fuller Pilch
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Agree. I know it is only T20 but he looked very useful for CD with his new action in that tournament in Guyana
Immenso
International Vice-Captain
A spate of nz cricket articles, as some players come within range of a cricket media.
D Phillips, Mariu, Ashok and Tim Pringle have been at camp in Chennai this winter. Who knew ...
D Phillips, Mariu, Ashok and Tim Pringle have been at camp in Chennai this winter. Who knew ...
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Man all of these Kiwi kids learning how to play spin thanks to Fleming and CSK. They seem to be here every other month. Now even the friggin Aussie youth team.
Our youth team meanwhile just stays here, and we wonder why our players dont adapt to SENA.
Our youth team meanwhile just stays here, and we wonder why our players dont adapt to SENA.