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Franchise Cricket in England Domestic Season 2025

Molehill

Molehill

International Coach
ImpatientLime said:
Not even mad about franchise cricket in England but the quality of the men's competition is absolutely dire.
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It's fairly obvious that a couple of teams have recruited way better than the others. Oval Invincibles will take some beating.

Hungry Llama said:
The england bowling coach went for 29 runs off 16 balls. Anderson fared even worse in his 1st match. Meanwhile Flintof has got his son into another team he coaches.
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It's ridiculous that Flintoff Jnr is sitting on the bench here instead of playing in the One Day Cup, which would've been far more beneficial to his development.
 
LangleyburyCCPlayer

LangleyburyCCPlayer

International Debutant
Molehill said:
It's fairly obvious that a couple of teams have recruited way better than the others. Oval Invincibles will take some beating.



It's ridiculous that Flintoff Jnr is sitting on the bench here instead of playing in the One Day Cup, which would've been far more beneficial to his development.
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A disasterclass from Warner and Williamson, Williamson at least had the grace not to overstay his welcome too much, but Warner clogged up most of the innings not scoring quickly enough. Very happy to see young England prospects Ben McKinney and Sonny Baker excel tonight, both will at least be in the Lions squad this winter I am sure, wouldn’t surprise me if we see Baker make an international debut before then too
 
Molehill

Molehill

International Coach
LangleyburyCCPlayer said:
A disasterclass from Warner and Williamson, Williamson at least had the grace not to overstay his welcome too much, but Warner clogged up most of the innings not scoring quickly enough. Very happy to see young England prospects Ben McKinney and Sonny Baker excel tonight, both will at least be in the Lions squad this winter I am sure, wouldn’t surprise me if we see Baker make an international debut before then too
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How many more gigs will Williamson get in T20 before everyone catches on that he just doesn't score fast enough anymore? Absolutely wasted the powerplay, even dafter when they have Smith sitting there at 3 twiddling his thumbs.

Baker has looked pretty good when I've seen him in this, but it is only the 100.
 
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LangleyburyCCPlayer

LangleyburyCCPlayer

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Molehill said:
How many more gigs will Williamson get in T20 before everyone catches on that he just doesn't score fast enough anymore? Absolutely wasted the powerplay, even dafter when they have Smith sitting there at 3 twiddling his thumbs.

Baker has looked pretty good when I've seen him in this, but it is only the 100.
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I guess they just wanted his star power to attract the punters, it’s probably why they picked England’s Test vice captain at 7 without bowling or keeping (despite the fact that he came out at 7 and averages less than 7 in the Hundred! ;) )
 
FBU

FBU

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Third_Man

Third_Man

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Molehill said:
It's fairly obvious that a couple of teams have recruited way better than the others. Oval Invincibles will take some beating.



It's ridiculous that Flintoff Jnr is sitting on the bench here instead of playing in the One Day Cup, which would've been far more beneficial to his development.
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Recruitment? Aren't they all substantially picking the same players as 5 years ago?
This competition is becoming what the ECB perpetually critised the Minor Counties for: a pay packet for the few lucky ones prolonging their careers. Looking at the teams today there are 6 players in one side at 30 or over including three 35 or over: Boult (35), Southee (36), Howell (36). The other has only 4 in the same age bracket Behrendorff (34), Sowter (32), Billings (33) and Curran (30). I wonder if the new owners will be as generous with players's pension top-up?

Don't moiind Flintoff being there on merit, if that was the case. The franchises should each have to pick a couple of teenagers to develop rather than rely on the over 30 brigade.
 
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kevinw

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OIs are basically the stacked MIs of a few years ago, but at least the IPL ensures a more-or-less full redrafting at some point. Seems crazy to be the best side by a distance AND then you bring Rashid Khan in! I don't mind Boult being in this comp; he's still one of the best new ball bowlers in the world. Southee is semi-retired, on the other hand. I'd still rather that the sides were predominantly locally based around 3x counties rather than the main single county and some randoms.
 
LangleyburyCCPlayer

LangleyburyCCPlayer

International Debutant
Third_Man said:
Recruitment? Aren't they all substantially picking the same players as 5 years ago?
This competition is becoming what the ECB perpetually critised the Minor Counties for: a pay packet for the few lucky ones prolonging their careers. Looking at the teams today there are 6 players in one side at 30 or over including three 35 or over: Boult (35), Southee (36), Howell (36). The other has only 4 in the same age bracket Behrendorff (34), Sowter (32), Billings (33) and Curran (30). I wonder if the new owners will be as generous with players's pension top-up?

Don't moiind Flintoff being there on merit, if that was the case. The franchises should each have to pick a couple of teenagers to develop rather than rely on the over 30 brigade.
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Granted, I’m not sure Flintoff would have made THAT much of an impact in the ODC, but it must be annoying to have him pinched just to sit on the bench when other players in his position are at least playing in the Hundred, we’ve literally just seen with Bethell the pitfalls of young players not playing!
 
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kevinw

International Debutant
LangleyburyCCPlayer said:
Granted, I’m not sure Flintoff would have made THAT much of an impact in the ODC, but it must be annoying to have him pinched just to sit on the bench when other players in his position are at least playing in the Hundred, we’ve literally just seen with Bethell the pitfalls of young players not playing!
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If they're not playing a game then same day why can't players be seconded out to a county? If they had to drive to a hundred game the following day still and play is it a big deal given the small impact any player makes?
 
Molehill

Molehill

International Coach
kevinw said:
Livingstone having his Russell/Pollard performance tonight (e.g., one decent performance followed by several crap ones).
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Didn't realise he still had an innings like that in him, and like you say, it'll probably be another 20 till we see it again.
 
LangleyburyCCPlayer

LangleyburyCCPlayer

International Debutant
kevinw said:
If they're not playing a game then same day why can't players be seconded out to a county? If they had to drive to a hundred game the following day still and play is it a big deal given the small impact any player makes?
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That beats me! I know they sometimes release players during Test matches, I see absolutely no reason they can’t do it for the Hundred
 
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