All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

[Thala_0710]

No Shrewsbury love out here, huh?

 

[capt_Luffy]

No Shrewsbury love out here, huh?

I probs rate Shrewsbury higher than you, but he is ideally a no. 3 in Tests. Still given the quality of openers Left, I will vote for him one Cook and Lawry makes it (and likely Barlow and Goddard).

 

[Thala_0710]

I probs rate Shrewsbury higher than you, but he is ideally a no. 3 in Tests. Still given the quality of openers Left, I will vote for him one Cook and Lawry makes it (and likely Barlow and Goddard).

Shrewsbury should be getting in before Lawry definitely

 

[capt_Luffy]

Shrewsbury should be getting in before Lawry definitely

What are your thoughts on Herbie Taylor?

 

[capt_Luffy]

Shrewsbury should be getting in before Lawry definitely

Changed to Arthur

 

[Thala_0710]

What are your thoughts on Herbie Taylor?

The upcoming guys in Shrewsbury, Cook, Lawry for now. After these 3, for me it's the trio of Morris, Taylor and Hanif in some order

 

[capt_Luffy]

The upcoming guys in Shrewsbury, Cook, Lawry for now. After these 3, for me it's the trio of Morris, Taylor and Hanif in some order

I actually think Taylor was a better batsman than Cook and Lawry, but as an Opener seems fair. Btw, feel Barlow should make this team

 

[Thala_0710]

I actually think Taylor was a better batsman than Cook and Lawry, but as an Opener seems fair. Btw, feel Barlow should make this team

Maybe. But what's better, playing a middle order out of position at number 6, who's a bit better than say Lawry/Cook as a batter. But you then lose out on the opening strength, which is more important.
So say Cook + Stokes vs Barlow + Kohli at 6

 

[capt_Luffy]

Maybe. But what's better, playing a middle order out of position at number 6, who's a bit better than say Lawry/Cook as a batter. But you then lose out on the opening strength, which is more important.
So say Cook + Stokes vs Barlow + Kohli at 6

Lloyd is an extremely fine option at 6 and even provides captaincy perk. Think Barlow+Lloyd is better than Cook+Stokes

 

[Thala_0710]

Lloyd is an extremely fine option at 6 and even provides captaincy perk. Think Barlow+Lloyd is better than Cook+Stokes

Fair point, agreed

 

[Thala_0710]

Tayfield looks likely to win this. Who next between Gibbs, Benaud and Kumble...
My order would be Benaud>Gibbs>Kumble

 

[capt_Luffy]

Tayfield looks likely to win this. Who next between Gibbs, Benaud and Kumble...
My order would be Benaud>Gibbs>Kumble

Depends on the tail I guess

 

[Thala_0710]

Isn't it too early for Akhtar?
Also Asif > Akhtar

 

[capt_Luffy]

Isn't it too early for Akhtar?
Also Asif > Akhtar

Hell No

 

[capt_Luffy]

Mahmood>Akhtar though

 

[Thala_0710]

Hell No

Hell yeah, Akhtar didn't play much either.
And when they did Asif's numbers are absolutely elite, Top 10 of all time when you factor in the conditions. That more than compensates the longevity argument.
If you don't want to vote for him for match fixing, it's fair enough. But it isn't a quality issue.
PS: Akhtar admitted to chucking a few times in his career as well so...

 

[Thala_0710]

Mahmood>Akhtar though

Yeah him too

 

[capt_Luffy]

Asif is overrated as hell by you

 

[Thala_0710]

Asif is overrated as hell by you

He's not. When you look at metrics like discount factor or even match factor, that actually take the pitches into account, you see what I'm talking about. And it's verified by the eye test as well as peer rep (which I don't give much weight to, but if someone does).

 

[Thala_0710]

And it's the same for Bond btw, just for him it's injury issues