All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

[trundler]

Unlike the others Gooch actually failed at test level. He clearly wasn't good enough against the higher standard of bowling. I'd rather pick Hirst or Mead and know they've got a risk of not performing than guarantee bad performance by going with that proven mediocrity whose surname is a synonym of one of your favourite words.

You're right about Gooch, of course, but the other blokes also got voted in because of their FC records despite how they went in tests. Rhodes took 2 WPM, Compton was a massive HTB and Ranji is old timey Kambli.

Silly boy. Gooch shouldn't even make the third English team. He should probably make the first NZ team after Bert Sutcliffe though.

Sutcliffe has a 6 point higher standardized average. Might legitimately be a better test batsman than Gooch.

 

[ataraxia]

Sutcliffe has a 6 point higher standardized average. Might legitimately be a better test batsman than Gooch.

Yeah I'm not joking around lol. In fact it's hardly questionable given Sutcliffe's longevity, especially if you big-up May for his standardised average.

 

[Johan]

What is Standardised average?

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Lol Bert Sutcliffe

love how you're gonna overrated 3000 @ 40 but deem 9000 @ 42 bad, being a Kiwi amp.

Turner and Dempster also better than Gooch.

Re 1st class Sutcliffe had two giant triples on terrible pitches

 

[Johan]

Turner and Dempster also better than Gooch.

Yeah and Tim Southee is better than James Anderson, we know.

 

[ataraxia]

Can you show me one instance of me saying Kane Williamson is a proven failiure on Test level, go

Here you go:

I have Williamson around Cook

Asad Shafiq – 39.6
Kane Williamson – 32

confirmed, Asad Shafiq>Kane Williamson

Ben Stokes is a better Cricketer than Kane Williamson

I have Williamson below Gooch

 

[Johan]

Gooch is better than either Hanif or (Bert) Sutcliffe though, better than Anwar and Turner too for good measure.

 

[trundler]

Yeah I'm not joking around lol. In fact it's hardly questionable given Sutcliffe's longevity, especially if you big-up May for his standardised average.

Standardised average can only be used to hype up black and white English HTBs. Taylor, Hanif, Woodfull, Ponsford, and H Sutcliffe all stomp on Gooch. Shrewsbury as well.

 

[Johan]

Here you go:

Joke

Clear Sarcasm

HOW IS THAT BAD

Joke

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Yeah and Tim Southee is better than James Anderson, we know.

Only at hitting 6s.

Matt Henry is probably better with the new ball than Anderson though.

 

[Johan]

Oh wait, I get the game now.

 

[Johan]

Only at hitting 6s.

In 2 years Matt Henry will be better than Anderson than.

Let's see how he goes in Australia.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Gooch is quite notably better than Openers remaining. Also, Compton being a HTB and Miandad not is particularly funny asf

 

[Johan]

Gooch is quite notably better than Openers remaining.

loads better than Hanif, for example!

 

[ataraxia]

Joke

Clear Sarcasm

HOW IS THAT BAD

Joke

Wow I bet there's loads of non-sarcastic posts of mine comparing Gooch to Brian Hastings or Habibul Bashar – truly multitudes exist.

 

[Johan]

Wow I bet there's loads of non-sarcastic posts of mine comparing Gooch to Brian Hastings or Habibul Bashar – truly multitudes exist.

Sheesh

 

[Johan]

Those who have voted Andy Flower – sincerely, go **** yourselves.

 

[ataraxia]

Gooch is quite notably better than Openers remaining.

You jest, surely. There's loads of openers still unpicked who played in bad conditions with averages in the low 40s, and many more who played in better conditions with averages in the high 40s.

It's seriously improbable that none of them take their fancy to the extent that you're forced to go with someone like Gooch with a skewed record in favourable conditions who can still only muster an average of 42.

 

[trundler]

Gooch is quite notably better than Openers remaining. Also, Compton being a HTB and Miandad not is particularly funny asf

Miandad doesn't have a sub-Jayawardene home away split even though he is an HTB. Just on the same level as Ponting, not Jaya.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Standardised average can only be used to hype up black and white English HTBs. Taylor, Hanif, Woodfull, Ponsford, and H Sutcliffe all stomp on Gooch. Shrewsbury as well.

Love how Ranji is Bad, but Shrewsbury is Good