All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

[trundler]

He only opened for 70 innings and dropped down the order frequently during his peak. He does not have the longevity for me to exclude the early no rounder phase. Hanif and Lawry were better for a longer period than the time Simpson spent opening.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Yeah the bowling and slip fielding is a big positive.... Don't think as an opener he's ahead of Shrewsbury, Merchant, Hill, Gooch, Sehwag or Cook though

Hill??

 

[Thala_0710]

Why is Hill getting no love?

 

[capt_Luffy]

Why is Hill getting no love?

Hill never opened

 

[Thala_0710]

Hill??

Yeah I rate him high

 

[capt_Luffy]

Or else he would be ahead of even Greenidge and Barry for me.

 

[Thala_0710]

Hill never opened

Mb... Don't know what I was thinking

 

[capt_Luffy]

Mb... Don't know what I was thinking

Yk when I first joined I made a list of best Aussie Openers and had Hill at like 9...... So yeah.

 

[Thala_0710]

Yk when I first joined I made a list of best Aussie Openers and had Hill at like 9...... So yeah.

For some reason, I made up the fact in my mind that Trumper and Hill were opening partners

 

[capt_Luffy]

For some reason, I made up the fact in my mind that Trumper and Hill were opening partners

Me Too!!!

 

[Thala_0710]

Simpson & Sehwag, Cummins & Walsh looking most likely now.... The wkb should be interesting, will Watling walk it or Flower/Pant could make it close?

 

[capt_Luffy]

Waite and Healy have good shots too I feel

 

[Coronis]

He only opened for 70 innings and dropped down the order frequently during his peak.

Not true. The first series he opened in was because Lawry hadn’t debuted yet. McDonald would play his last test less than a year later and Simpson and Lawry became established. Ian Redpath was an opening batsman and when he was brought into the side Simpson stepped down from opening as a trial for him, however Redpath wasn’t an immediate success so Simpson returned to opening after a few tests and Redpath had to wait until Simpson’s retirement before his next shot at the new ball. I imagine Redpath had been building quite a resume on the domestic scene.

 

[trundler]

Not true. The first series he opened in was because Lawry hadn’t debuted yet. McDonald would play his last test less than a year later and Simpson and Lawry became established. Ian Redpath was an opening batsman and when he was brought into the side Simpson stepped down from opening as a trial for him, however Redpath wasn’t an immediate success so Simpson returned to opening after a few tests and Redpath had to wait until Simpson’s retirement before his next shot at the new ball. I imagine Redpath had been building quite a resume on the domestic scene.

He dropped down the order for McDonald too after his first opening stint. He just didn't open enough to be rated that highly as an opener.

 

[kingkallis]

Waite and Healy have good shots too I feel

Both were very good keepers, ahead of Flower and Pant to be honest. I dont know why CW dont rate Marsh though.

 

[Thala_0710]

Waite and Healy have good shots too I feel

What about Lindsay?

 

[capt_Luffy]

Both were very good keepers, ahead of Flower and Pant to be honest. I dont know why CW dont rate Marsh though.

Marsh was very good but think he is worse with both the gloves and especially the bat than the likes of Waite, Watling and even Engineer. Not a better bat while being much worse with gloves than Cameron and Healy as well.

 

[capt_Luffy]

What about Lindsay?

Behind them for me. Engineer and Dhoni also on the same level, Cameron as well. Especially Cameron, bloody underrated.

 

[Thala_0710]

Behind them for me. Engineer and Dhoni also on the same level, Cameron as well. Especially Cameron, bloody underrated.

Id take Lindsay ahead of Engineer and Dhoni

 

[capt_Luffy]

Id take Lindsay ahead of Engineer and Dhoni

Didn't play enough for me and don't think was a clearly superior glovesman (wasn't definitely than Engineer). Great Australia tour though averages less than Dhoni with less than 1/4 Tests.