Which cricketers go on each countries Mount Rushmore?

[sayon basak]

JR Reid

Him, Charles Kelleway or Brian McMillan as a cricketer?

 

[capt_Luffy]

Him, Charles Kelleway or Brian McMillan as a cricketer?

McMillan. Kelleway and he are equal, will go with him for captaincy.

 

[sayon basak]

McMillan. Kelleway and he are equal, will go with him for captaincy.

Shut the **** up.

 

[subshakerz]

Whichever way you put it, both kinda synonymous in this context. Bottomline, Miandad got there when Pak wasn't ****, so he can only compete for the growth spot, with Imran...... So yeah. And while I generally don't mix cricket with cricketers outside of it, being involved so closely with terrorism kinda leaves an extremely bad taste in terms of Greatness

I mean, we can't mix that with his role in cricket.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Him, Charles Kelleway or Brian McMillan as a cricketer?

Reid

 

[DrWolverine]

Cronje? What?

Hansie Cronje laid the foundation stone of modern South African cricket.South Africa had just reentered international cricket after decades of isolation. Under his leadership, they didn’t just catch up; they leapfrogged into the top tier. He was the driving force behind South Africa’s rise as a world-class team in the 1990s and he gained the respect of his biggest star Allan Donald. He also nurtured future stars like Kallis, Pollock and Boucher who served the country for decades. Maybe his later actions define him but before that, he became a unifying symbol in post-apartheid South Africa, giving the nation pride through cricket.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Hansie Cronje laid the foundation stone of modern South African cricket.South Africa had just reentered international cricket after decades of isolation. Under his leadership, they didn’t just catch up; they leapfrogged into the top tier. He was the driving force behind South Africa’s rise as a world-class team in the 1990s and he gained the respect of his biggest star Allan Donald. He also nurtured future stars like Kallis, Pollock and Boucher who served the country for decades. Maybe his later actions define him but before that, he became a unifying symbol in post-apartheid South Africa, giving the nation pride through cricket.

Kepler Wessels

 

[capt_Luffy]

Hansie Cronje laid the foundation stone of modern South African cricket.South Africa had just reentered international cricket after decades of isolation. Under his leadership, they didn’t just catch up; they leapfrogged into the top tier. He was the driving force behind South Africa’s rise as a world-class team in the 1990s and he gained the respect of his biggest star Allan Donald. He also nurtured future stars like Kallis, Pollock and Boucher who served the country for decades. Maybe his later actions define him but before that, he became a unifying symbol in post-apartheid South Africa, giving the nation pride through cricket.

Wessels or Donald. Cronje lost his claim

 

[subshakerz]

Hansie Cronje laid the foundation stone of modern South African cricket.South Africa had just reentered international cricket after decades of isolation. Under his leadership, they didn’t just catch up; they leapfrogged into the top tier. He was the driving force behind South Africa’s rise as a world-class team in the 1990s and he gained the respect of his biggest star Allan Donald. He also nurtured future stars like Kallis, Pollock and Boucher who served the country for decades. Maybe his later actions define him but before that, he became a unifying symbol in post-apartheid South Africa, giving the nation pride through cricket.

You think SA want him on their Rushmore?

 

[DrWolverine]

Wessels or Donald. Cronje lost his claim

India had a full fledged series with them. Allan Donald showed the potential of SA by destorying us in one day & test.

Donald took 12 wickets in a test and helped them win their first test post comeback and series 1-0.

In their first one day match post comeback, Donald showed the might of SA taking 5 wickets in front of packed Eden Gardens to help SA win.

 

[subshakerz]

India had a full fledged series with them. Allan Donald showed the potential of SA by destorying us in one day & test.

Donald took 12 wickets in a test and helped them win their first test post comeback and series 1-0.

In their first one day match post comeback, Donald showed the might of SA taking 5 wickets in front of packed Eden Gardens to help SA win.

Ok then pick Donalds

 

[DrWolverine]

You think SA want him on their Rushmore?

Maybe not.
But his impact on their team cannot be denied.

Even if Kapil was proven guilty in match fixing, his impact would not have been lessened.

 

[DrWolverine]

Ok then pick Donalds

I did pick him.
Basil D’Oliveira
Hansie Cronje
Allan Donald
Jacques Kallis

 

[capt_Luffy]

I did pick him.
Basil D’Oliveira
Hansie Cronje
Allan Donald
Jacques Kallis

The oldest saffa being an English players and the rest 3 from readmission...... Atleast have van Ryneveld or Barlow then.

 

[DrWolverine]

The oldest saffa being an English players

I chose him for the impact on SA cricket.
Otherwise I would go with Smith or Steyn

 

[Johan]

Faulkner, Roro, Oliveira and Steyn (Kallis was really, really close)

 

[subshakerz]

Faulkner, Roro, Oliveira and Steyn (Kallis was really, really close)

You need G Pollock IMO.

Kallis is a lock sorry.

 

[sayon basak]

You need G Pollock IMO.

Kallis is a lock sorry.

Roro and Oliveira are bigger locks.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

WI:

Headley
Sobers
Viv
Worrell

Note that Marshall is a better cricketer than all of the above (except Gary) but he's not as important as those 4.

 

[Swamp Witch Hattie]

@Swamp Witch Hattie is Fleming or McCullum more deserving of being on NZ Mount Rushmore?

Subsz, in my youth I followed a number of sports quite closely, from about 1974 (Ali vs. Foreman) to about 1998 (Jordan's second three-peat) but have followed sport only casually since, even NZ sport. @capt_Luffy knows far more about NZ cricket than I do! I have always been drawn mainly to the greats (Ali, Nicklaus, Hadlee, McEnroe, Jordan, etc.) while the lesser lights have gone by the wayside in my mind. I'm not saying that they're not important, they're absolutely crucial but they don't grab me.

@peterhrt has written a deep and subtle post about Mount Rushmore here (what a true gem Peter is, honestly, we are so lucky to have him) but I'm a simple man and Mount Rushmore is for me, just about greatness, nothing more. So I would have, for NZ cricket, Hadlee, Crowe, Williamson and ... somebody else. For the fourth spot, I would have to think about it a bit more! It might not be either of Fleming or McCullum. Fleming was an excellent batsman and a great captain but I would probably go with McCullum because he had the X-factor, he was a very attacking batsman (with a SR of 64.60 cf. 45.82 for Fleming and 70.19* for Viv), there's his iconic 302, as well as his being more closely aligned to the Kane era (who succeeded him) which led to our nearly winning the 2019 Cricket World Cup final and actually winning the 2021 ICC World Test Championship final. So I would go with McCullum but I am happy to be corrected by those with more knowledge who have thought more deeply about it!

As an aside, I quite like what Nicklaus said about golf's Mount Rushmore here and also what one of the commenters said in response: