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4th Test (Old Trafford, Manchester) - 23rd to 27th of July

Chin Music

State Captain
I wouldn't be too harsh on India, they haven't been helped by the weather, it was overcast when they batted and it has been sunny for England batting.

Stokes should get a job as a weatherman when he retires, I doubt even the professional weathermen could predict the English weather as well as he can
I think they have a right to be unhappy about yesterday. Rubbish for much of that day,especially with the new ball.
 

Darwin Award

State 12th Man
Probably should have left JB out. Can see why they gambled but he certainly isn't playing the last test.
If India lost the 4th test narrowly without him then there would've been predictable uproar about what was the point of saving him for the 5th test when the series is now over.

Personally you'd want to play him when there's everything to play for.
 

Arachnödouche2.0

State Vice-Captain
If India lost the 4th test narrowly without him then there would've been predictable uproar about what was the point of saving him for the 5th test when the series is now over.

Personally you'd want to play him when there's everything to play for.
The worry is he's looked spent despite the 10 day break so even if India manage the unlikeliest outcome imaginable here, he's hardly going to be in any shape for the quick turnaround at the Oval.
 

SkyBlue

International 12th Man
Gill is an inexperienced captain so I would give him the benefit of the doubt but Gambhir is a pure trash coach. Never a good idea to select bits and pieces cricketers and expect to win test matches.

How many all-rounders did we have in Kohli-Shastri era?

This just shows how much faith we have in our batters that we have to field bums like Thakur for some extra batting down the order
 

Darwin Award

State 12th Man
The worry is he's looked spent despite the 10 day break so even if India manage the unlikeliest outcome imaginable here, he's hardly going to be in any shape for the quick turnaround at the Oval.
India can then say going into the decider that's as good as it's going to get & if they're good enough to snatch it,then so be it.They can lift with everything on the line

However,by leaving him out and risking 3-1 then kills it then & there.

He isn't there simply to win test matches.... but moreso win series.
 

jaydesh

U19 12th Man
Gill is an inexperienced captain so I would give him the benefit of the doubt but Gambhir is a pure trash coach. Never a good idea to select bits and pieces cricketers and expect to win test matches.

How many all-rounders did we have in Kohli-Shastri era?

This just shows how much faith we have in our batters that we have to field bums like Thakur for some extra batting down the order
I wish India had the potential for a genuine seam bowling all rounder on par with Stokes. At the moment, they have Nitish Kumar Reddy who is a mental midget in conditions that aren't conducive for stroke play, and Shardul Thakur who depends on a fluke performance every 15 matches. In the Kohli-Shastri era they were playing Hardik Pandya which failed utterly.
 

slowfinger

International Regular
I wish India had the potential for a genuine seam bowling all rounder on par with Stokes. At the moment, they have Nitish Kumar Reddy who is a mental midget in conditions that aren't conducive for stroke play, and Shardul Thakur who depends on a fluke performance every 15 matches. In the Kohli-Shastri era they were playing Hardik Pandya which failed utterly.
i think you'd slap your hands off to play Hardik Pandya in conditions like this right now
 

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