All-Time World XIs: Discussion Thread

[Thala_0710]

Oldfield and Cameron were tiers above, Duckworth too probably.

Yeah they were, they were even multiple more tiers above the guys you're suggesting though.

 

[subshakerz]

Because I'm not sure that it's the right pick anymore, now that other places are locked in. Hammond and Kallis sharing the 5th sounds very good to me, and the tail below Imran is very weak.

Wow so might've had 4 ARs in your original XI.

 

[Johan]

just vote Walcott people

 

[Thala_0710]

just vote Walcott people

Knott if Kallis, if Miller wins then might

 

[sayon basak]

Yeah they were, they were even multiple more tiers above the guys you're suggesting though.

But the guy I was suggesting was lightyears ahead with the bat.

Now the only thing you can do is whining about his average as a keeper.

 

[Thala_0710]

But the guy I was suggesting was lightyears ahead with the bat.

Now the only thing you can do is whining about his average as a keeper.

Nahh, I'm whining about his keeping as well

 

[capt_Luffy]

I reckon he's close to the elite tier, his batting (like Gilly) sometimes leads to his keeping getting underestimated imo. He holds records in the county championships to this day, including most stumpings and most dismissals (in separate seasons).
"The wonderful record of A. P. Freeman, who taking 304 wickets in the season, beat the record of the late Tom Richardson, was helped materially by Ames' work behind the wicket. Ames took Freeman very well indeed. It has been said of him that he makes wicket-keeping look easy, which appears to be true; it is the greatest compliment which can be paid to a wicket-keeper."

Yeah, he kept to Freeman well, but there were quite a few journalists and players complaining about how playing Ames was in expense of better keeping as well.

 

[capt_Luffy]

just vote Walcott people

Sangakkara kept to Murali for over 2000 overs in International Cricket diligently. What more you want?

 

[Thala_0710]

Yeah, he kept to Freeman well, but there were quite a few journalists and players complaining about how playing Ames was in expense of better keeping as well.

Yup, because better keepers existed, who are arguably the greatest pure keepers of all time. It's not like Pant vs Jurel or something

 

[Johan]

Yeah, he kept to Freeman well, but there were quite a few journalists and players complaining about how playing Ames was in expense of better keeping as well.

Ames is a 40 averaging bat and he legit won't make England with the bat alone, shows how good 30s England batting was, marginally superior to Bazball England batting.

 

[sayon basak]

Yeah, he kept to Freeman well, but there were quite a few journalists and players complaining about how playing Ames was in expense of better keeping as well.

But keeping to Freeman is much more difficult than keeping to Murali.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Ames is a 40 averaging bat and he legit won't make England with the bat alone, shows how good 30s England batting was, marginally superior to Bazball England batting.

He tbf would have played atleast a few matches as a pure batter. Almost made his debut as one before breaking a finger, and still played in 3 as such.

 

[sayon basak]

If my social media identity was hanging by a thread, I wouldn't talk like this

That's actually a good point. I might switch to Walcott.

 

[Johan]

Sangakkara kept to Murali for over 2000 overs in International Cricket diligently. What more you want?

A more muscular power game from my number 6 and I reckon he has a better chance keeping up the stumps to Barnes due to larger reach.

 

[capt_Luffy]

That's actually a good point. I might switch to Walcott.

Hey, watch much YouTube?

 

[Thala_0710]

Hey, watch much YouTube?

You can't threaten him with that... Considering I have that too..

 

[capt_Luffy]

A more muscular power game from my number 6 and I reckon he has a better chance keeping up the stumps to Barnes due to larger reach.

Even Knott isn't keeping to Barnes upto the stump, that's not gonna happen. And like, Sanga averaged 40 while at 3, much tougher than 5/6 imo. Also, like Sangakkara is just a much better overall batsman.

 

[capt_Luffy]

You can't threaten him with that... Considering I have that too..

Well, you aren't the only one with Insta either.

 

[Johan]

Even Knott isn't keeping to Barnes upto the stump, that's not gonna happen. And like, Sanga averaged 40 while at 3, much tougher than 5/6 imo. Also, like Sangakkara is just a much better overall batsman.

Quantitatively Yes, Qualitatively No, You know my opinion on tier 3 ATGs (Walcott, Weekes types) and Tier 2. I generally just want a quicker scorer at 6 and I'm willing to take Walcott for it.

 

[sayon basak]

Hey, watch much YouTube?

Yeah I do.