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Fazal is a good shout too, he's actually the third best ever pacer from Pak on discount factor, behind only Asif and Imran. But it's much better at home than away. Don't think I can have him (or to a less degree Asif) over Waqar based on thatImran
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I give a bit of an extra credence to guys like Fazal and Headley who put ATG or ATVG performance while being part of minnow units.Fazal is a good shout too, he's actually the third best ever pacer from Pak on discount factor, behind only Asif and Imran. But it's much better at home than away. Don't think I can have him (or to a less degree Asif) over Waqar based on that
Fair point, but Fazal's away record reads:I give a bit of an extra credence to guys like Fazal and Headley who put ATG or ATVG performance while being part of minnow units.
Fazal won Pak a match in England (6m, 25@29.8) and one in WI (5m, 20@38). Should count for something imo. His India record in good but not extraordinary in a way that it effects his stats, and India were weak to pacers, Mahmood was very much a medio.Fair point, but Fazal's away record reads:
21 mat 74 wkts @30.47, and 10 of these matches are in India against a poor batting line up vs pace. Can't have him that high imo
That's good but isn't enough to get you over guys like Waqar, Ashwin etc imoFazal won Pak a match in England (6m, 25@29.8) and one in WI (5m, 20@38). Should count for something imo. His India record in good but not extraordinary in a way that it effects his stats, and India were weak to pacers, Mahmood was very much a medio.
dsirespectful ass mf, didn't even mention Fazal in 12 names.Murali
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Kumble, Asif, Ashwin, Jadeja, Chandra, Vaas and Bedi would complete the dozen.
Not even Shoaib?Murali
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Kumble, Asif, Ashwin, Jadeja, Chandra, Vaas and Bedi would complete the dozen.
mostly messed up by his final two tests, he averaged 20 in his first tour to England and took 4 an innings. His WI tour was weird, uber flat pitches, absurd batting lineup of Weekes, Walcott, Kanhai, Hunte, Worrell (I think) and Sobers, did win a game for them though, was thoroughly taken apart during the Sobers 365.Fair point, but Fazal's away record reads:
21 mat 74 wkts @30.47, and 10 of these matches are in India against a poor batting line up vs pace. Can't have him that high imo
Was thinking more of playing on SC turf wickets, excluding mattings. The reason didn't look at Subash Gupte too. too much unknowns.dsirespectful ass mf, didn't even mention Fazal in 12 names.
Missing Kapil was brutal I think. He is better than Vaas.Akhtar, Shami, Fazal and Kapil are all better pacers than Vaas imo
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