Keith Miller vs Shane Warne

[subshakerz]

Who is better

 

[DrWolverine]

Shane Warne

Miller is not an ATG in both batting & bowling for me unlike Sobers, Hadlee, Imran and Kallis.

 

[subshakerz]

Shane Warne

Miller is not an ATG in both batting & bowling for me unlike Sobers, Hadlee, Imran and Kallis.

Who has more match impact, Warne or Miller?

 

[Johan]

Miller is not an ATG in both batting & bowling for me unlike Sobers, Hadlee, Imran and Kallis.

useless point. If someone averages 48 with the bat and 26 witn the ball then they are still not ATG in either discipline, but they'd be the second greatest Cricketer. You don't need to be ATG in primary disciplines to be an ATG all rounder.

 

[subshakerz]

useless point. If someone averages 48 with the bat and 26 witn the ball then they are still not ATG in either discipline, but they'd be the second greatest Cricketer. You don't need to be ATG in primary disciplines to be an ATG all rounder.

Totally agree.

Miller is a worldclass bowler.

 

[DrWolverine]

If someone averages 48 with the bat and 26 witn the ball then they are still not ATG in either discipline.

No cricketer has averaged 40+ with the bat and less than 30 with the ball in last 100 years so what you are saying is just theoretical nonsense

 

[Johan]

No cricketer has averaged 40+ with the bat and less than 30 with the ball in last 100 years so what you are saying is just theoretical nonsense

I'm saying your standard is incorrect as there's no necessity to be ATG either with the ball or the bat to be an ATG all rounder and be in that conversation.

 

[DrWolverine]

To be a great all rounder, you should be great at least in at least one discipline.

 

[capt_Luffy]

To be a great all rounder, you should be great at least in at least one discipline.

That's the exact anti-thesis of what an allrounder truly is. Kudos.

 

[Al Salvador]

Shane Warne

Miller is not an ATG in both batting & bowling for me unlike Sobers, Hadlee, Imran and Kallis.

Miller is an ATG bowler. Get over it.

 

[DrWolverine]

That's the exact anti-thesis of what an allrounder truly is. Kudos.

All rounder? Yes
Great all rounder? Yes
Not on same level as Sobers, Hadlee, Imran & Kallis.

 

[capt_Luffy]

All rounder? Yes
Great all rounder? Yes
Not on same level as Sobers, Hadlee, Imran & Kallis.

An allrounder who averages 24 with the ball and 48 with the is certainly on par with them, actually better.

 

[subshakerz]

To be a great all rounder, you should be great at least in at least one discipline.

Miller was a great bowler just not ATG

 

[Al Salvador]

Miller was a great bowler just not ATG

And thats also purely because of wpm not even quality

 

[subshakerz]

And thats also purely because of wpm not even quality

Yes.

But a great bowler plus a full fledge good bat is exceptional. He is ATG as an AR.

 

[sayon basak]

No cricketer has averaged 40+ with the bat and less than 30 with the ball in last 100 years so what you are saying is just theoretical nonsense

That's the best you could do?

 

[DrWolverine]

An allrounder who averages 24 with the ball and 48 with the is certainly on par with them, actually better.

Who is the all rounder that is averaging 24 with the ball and 48 with the bat?

 

[capt_Luffy]

Who is the all rounder that is averaging 24 with the ball and 48 with the bat?

Don't retract. You said a player needs to be ATG on a particular disciplines to be an ATG Allrounder. Such a player surely won't

 

[Fuller Pilch]

No cricketer has averaged 40+ with the bat and less than 30 with the ball in last 100 years so what you are saying is just theoretical nonsense

Mulder will get there soon. If he'd batted for another 30 mins he might already have done it.

 

[sayon basak]

Who is the all rounder that is averaging 24 with the ball and 48 with the bat?

If he existed, would he be ATG or not?